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Old 11-29-2017, 02:00 PM   #1
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Happy for Herm. He'll make a great college coach. Players and parents will love him. Wishing him great success. Go Herm! (Surprised he'd give up the analyst gig.)
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Old 11-29-2017, 02:09 PM   #2
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Happy for Herm. He'll make a great college coach. Players and parents will love him. Wishing him great success. Go Herm! (Surprised he'd give up the analyst gig.)
ESPN is about to can a bunch of people again so maybe he's just getting out before he gets axed.
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Old 11-29-2017, 02:11 PM   #3
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ESPN is about to can a bunch of people again so maybe he's just getting out before he gets axed.
That occurred to me, but they keep shitcanning people that can actually perform analysis, so I figured he was safe.
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Old 11-29-2017, 02:31 PM   #4
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ESPN is about to can a bunch of people again so maybe he's just getting out before he gets axed.
Never would have imagined ESPN being the sinking ship that it has become. Would think that Herm could find an analyst job elsewhere, but being a college coach seems like a good fit. Got to watch him head a football camp for kids. Very kind and generous person in private. Great with kids and parents. Sad to see all the venom. Guessing most of the ire comes from people who've never met him. Yeah, his last 2 years in KC were awful, but we'll never know how much of that was Herm and how much was due to the turmoil in the FO.
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Never would have imagined ESPN being the sinking ship that it has become. Would think that Herm could find an analyst job elsewhere, but being a college coach seems like a good fit. Got to watch him head a football camp for kids. Very kind and generous person in private. Great with kids and parents. Sad to see all the venom. Guessing most of the ire comes from people who've never met him. Yeah, his last 2 years in KC were awful, but we'll never know how much of that was Herm and how much was due to the turmoil in the FO.
He may be a kind person in real life but he is an arrogant grandstanding fraud every time he’s in front of a camera.
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Old 11-29-2017, 04:30 PM   #6
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He's been bombastic at times, true. "Grandstanding"... yeah, I see that. We all know the "You play to win the game" moment. But I've always seen those bombastic moments as his "schtick", not arrogance. More entertainment value, which what football ultimately is for the fans. I don't really know him, so maybe I'm wrong. But off-camera, he was a gem when I was around him.
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He's been bombastic at times, true. "Grandstanding"... yeah, I see that. We all know the "You play to win the game" moment. But I've always seen those bombastic moments as his "schtick", not arrogance. More entertainment value, which what football ultimately is for the fans. I don't really know him, so maybe I'm wrong. But off-camera, he was a gem when I was around him.
Buehler and reerun and several others are in the Herm is 100% wrong and he did literally 0% right in his entire HC career school. We have those same types of people for Alex Smith as well. It's sad that this type of overreaction gets ignored, but rational people like you step in and say "he wasn't a good coach but holy shit, he did at least 1% good." You will literally get steamrolled with that mentality.

Totally with you. Flawed coach. Not a good coach, not nearly the dumpster fire everyone said he was. Did a lot of bad things here but also did some good. And he will probably have about the same middling performance at ASU too.
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Old 11-29-2017, 05:17 PM   #8
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Buehler and reerun and several others are in the Herm is 100% wrong and he did literally 0% right in his entire HC career school. We have those same types of people for Alex Smith as well. It's sad that this type of overreaction gets ignored, but rational people like you step in and say "he wasn't a good coach but holy shit, he did at least 1% good." You will literally get steamrolled with that mentality.

Totally with you. Flawed coach. Not a good coach, not nearly the dumpster fire everyone said he was. Did a lot of bad things here but also did some good. And he will probably have about the same middling performance at ASU too.
Thanks. Hopefully for him, the time away will give him some perspective he didn't have before and shows up in the win/loss column. Imagine the thread if Gunther gets a HC job.
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Buehler and reerun and several others are in the Herm is 100% wrong and he did literally 0% right in his entire HC career school. We have those same types of people for Alex Smith as well. It's sad that this type of overreaction gets ignored, but rational people like you step in and say "he wasn't a good coach but holy shit, he did at least 1% good." You will literally get steamrolled with that mentality.

Totally with you. Flawed coach. Not a good coach, not nearly the dumpster fire everyone said he was. Did a lot of bad things here but also did some good. And he will probably have about the same middling performance at ASU too.
Did I say he was 100% wrong? I said he was a shit coach and a shit personnel man. He was bad at every single aspect of his job but he’s not 100% wrong.

In point of fact he was on the radio a few weeks back talking about when he suspended LJ for smacking that chick. I listened to it, remembered what happened and I’m totally on board with what he did.

Cutting some high priced used up guys was the right call. A few draft picks were the right call (even if he was too ****ing stupid to use Charles when anybody with a brain could see he was better than LJ). And if he really was the driving force to make King Carl give up the Marty approach that was right too.

He was shit at every aspect of his job but I’m not blind to what he did right.

And I’m not like the Alex Smith haters. I was probably one of the last ones that defended him outside of the but huggers. I didn’t want to bench him before we drafted Mahomes because there wasn’t a better option. I am opinionated but I’m not a blind rage monster like you allege.

You are just incomprehensibly white knighting the worst coach I’ve seen.
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He's been bombastic at times, true. "Grandstanding"... yeah, I see that. We all know the "You play to win the game" moment. But I've always seen those bombastic moments as his "schtick", not arrogance. More entertainment value, which what football ultimately is for the fans. I don't really know him, so maybe I'm wrong. But off-camera, he was a gem when I was around him.
Nah. It’s not that. The you play to win the game crap is just funny.

What REALLY pisses me off is he constantly says shit about how WE did it in Tampa. Like as a DB coach he had any input on how it was done. Never mind he never mentions how HE did it in KC or NYJ. Because when HE did it it was total and abject failure. Fraud.

And he goes on and on scolding fans about the “circus offense”. That didn’t at least tweak you a little? He stands up there like a self righteous assface when he is totally clueless about WHY that stuff worked or was done. Treating the fans like they’re idiots doesn’t irritate you? It does me.

And it’s not just the offense. It’s stating EVERY ****ING DAY that we are going to build a tough defense all the while rolling out the softest unit I’ve ever seen ever.

Pretending to be competent and constantly talking down to fans while rolling out the worst season in franchise history makes me crazy. At least when Crennel was doing it he wasn’t talking down to anybody.

And he is constantly grandstanding about how to handle a locker room or player behavior or coach behavior. Like he knows what you need to do to hold a winning locker room.

It’s probably just because I’m too close to him wrecking my franchise but I can’t handle it. Every time he says something reeruned it makes me crazy. And that’s most of the time.
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