John Dorsey agrees to be the Chiefs next GM

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We don't know what ***** did in NE, but his time in KC strongly suggests that he did very, very little of consequence.

Given *****'s propensity to focus on all of the wrong things, it makes sense that he'd have his scouts talking to equipment managers rather than looking at tape and evaluating if the player can actually...wait for it...play at a high level. All the while disregarding some of the most obvious and damning evidence that can be presented (evidence A: Brokaki).

***** was a ****ing fool, and there is nothing but weak speculation to try to claim that his scouting network was any less foolish. There is, however, plenty of empirical evidence to prove that everything ***** tried to do was a mistake, so I'll continue to put my faith in what we definitively know.

Let's hope it's different with Dorsey.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

We don't know what ***** did in NE, but his time in KC strongly suggests that he did very, very little of consequence.

Given *****'s propensity to focus on all of the wrong things, it makes sense that he'd have his scouts talking to equipment managers rather than looking at tape and evaluating if the player can actually...wait for it...play at a high level. All the while disregarding some of the most obvious and damning evidence that can be presented (evidence A: Brokaki).

***** was a ****ing fool, and there is nothing but weak speculation to try to claim that his scouting network was any less foolish. There is, however, plenty of empirical evidence that everything ***** tried to do was a mistake, so I'll continue to put my faith in what we definitively know.

Brokaki is a classic example of what I'm trying to say. Do you think Brokaki was picked because the scouts were gushing about him? Or do you think that pick was made because of Ferentz, because of Pioli's obsession with finding his version of Daniel Graham, and because of Pioli's "playbook" decision to draft only captains with high character?

Look, I get what you're saying on the second point. I am not saying we know we have outstanding scouts. I am saying we don't know what we have because we had a leader who was making terrible decisions with the information he got. There is a ton of proof that Pioli made a lot of terrible decisions that had nothing to do with getting bad information. There is little proof of knowing whether it was Pioli making bad decisions with bad information, or making bad decisions with good information. I think the scouts deserve at least some benefit of the doubt that it was maybe the latter, given what we know about Pioli.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Brokaki is a classic example of what I'm trying to say. Do you think Brokaki was picked because the scouts were gushing about him? Or do you think that pick was made because of Ferentz, because of Pioli's obsession with finding his version of Daniel Graham, and because of Pioli's "playbook" decision to draft only captains with high character?

Look, I get what you're saying on the second point. I am not saying we know we have outstanding scouts. I am saying we don't know what we have because we had a leader who was making terrible decisions with the information he got. There is a ton of proof that Pioli made a lot of terrible decisions that had nothing to do with getting bad information. There is little proof of knowing whether it was Pioli making bad decisions with bad information, or making bad decisions with good information. I think the scouts deserve at least some benefit of the doubt that it was maybe the latter, given what we know about Pioli.

Pioli hired the scouts.


Enough said.
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[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Brokaki is a classic example of what I'm trying to say. Do you think Brokaki was picked because the scouts were gushing about him? Or do you think that pick was made because of Ferentz, because of *****'s obsession with finding his version of Daniel Graham, and because of *****'s "playbook" decision to draft only captains with high character?

Look, I get what you're saying on the second point. I am not saying we know we have outstanding scouts. I am saying we don't know what we have because we had a leader who was making terrible decisions with the information he got. There is a ton of proof that ***** made a lot of terrible decisions that had nothing to do with getting bad information. There is little proof of knowing whether it was ***** making bad decisions with bad information, or making bad decisions with good information. I think the scouts deserve at least some benefit of the doubt that it was maybe the latter, given what we know about *****.

I'm fine with giving them the benefit of the doubt and the opportunity for a fair and thorough evaluation by a competent NFL man in Reid.

But I'm fairly confident in saying that everything about the fundamental organization of the franchise, from upper-management to the scouting network, under Pioli was about as ****ed up as it could be.

I highly doubt that man successfully hits the toilet on most days. Thus, since epic failure assembled our scouts and they were hand-picked by him, I'm equally confident in saying that they probably need to be flushed.

It's just really hard to understate how badly Pioli executed his job.

[Messier]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Brokaki is a classic example of what I'm trying to say. Do you think Brokaki was picked because the scouts were gushing about him? Or do you think that pick was made because of Ferentz, because of *****'s obsession with finding his version of Daniel Graham, and because of *****'s "playbook" decision to draft only captains with high character?

Look, I get what you're saying on the second point. I am not saying we know we have outstanding scouts. I am saying we don't know what we have because we had a leader who was making terrible decisions with the information he got. There is a ton of proof that ***** made a lot of terrible decisions that had nothing to do with getting bad information. There is little proof of knowing whether it was ***** making bad decisions with bad information, or making bad decisions with good information. I think the scouts deserve at least some benefit of the doubt that it was maybe the latter, given what we know about *****.

I don't have a problem with the Moeaki pick. He's talented, he's just injury prone. lots of players get drafted later than they should because of injuries, you just hope they get over it, and a lot do. TM hasn't been able to shake the injuries, but I have no problem with him as a player or the pick. I do have a big problem with the 1st nd 2nd round picks that have been wasted under Pioli.

[CoMoChief]

great hire

[Brock]

zilla zillaing it up again.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Brock

zilla zillaing it up again.

No shit.

No one hijacks a thread with awful football takes like this clown.

[Mother****erJones]

FYI Scott COULDNT have listened to scouts. His ego wouldnt allow it. He hired Yes men

[ChiefRocka]

Black Boobing

[Hammock Parties]

1-gap 3-4?

[BigRedChief]

Hope is restored!

[PhillyChiefFan]

Excellent. Onward to Geno!

[SAUTO]

Who gives a **** how spread out the scouts were.if they were idiots like Pioli they didn't know what to look for.

We don't know they aren't idiots. **** them
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[mnchiefsguy]

Press Conference is set for 2pm on Monday, per kcchiefs.com