***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

You also tried to say Fauci was only talking about N95 masks yesterday despite his very words "and surgical masks" right after N95.

So you can run with that one as well.

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I'll say this - there is no poster on ChiefsPlanet who makes me give up after sheer exhaustion more than you. Your endurance for inane arguments is unprecedented.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Yea literally no one.....

Don't blame Black Lives Matter protests for the spike in coronavirus cases across the US
https://www.businessinsider.com/blac...tbreaks-2020-6

So Far, So Good: No COVID-19 Spread From Protests...Yet
https://www.medpagetoday.com/infecti.../covid19/87148

Blaming protesters for COVID-19 spread ignores the bigger threats to health
https://www.theverge.com/2020/6/3/21...-health-racism

If the numbers in the first couple links are correct then we're both are wrong.

Either way, what you're complaining about is not something I've ran across at all. I haven't been told that by any mainstream media, any of the websites I frequent, and I don't recall anyone posting that info in this thread.
Hell, if you look hard enough you can find some website that says anything you want.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Nay, nay...we've been told that all those people crammed together in large masses night after night after night is completely irrelevant to any of this. This is all because people going to restaurants and getting their hairs cut.

They tested tons of people in Minnesota and the positivity rate among those who claimed to have attended a protest was actually lower than in the rest of the population.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by stumppy

Hell, if you look hard enough you can find some website that says anything you want.

I suspect he will.

[TLO]

Looks like an expected up-tick on Worldomoters today.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

I'll say this - there is no poster on ChiefsPlanet who makes me give up after sheer exhaustion more than you. Your endurance for inane arguments is unprecedented.

Or you could have just admitted you were wrong when I showed you exactly where you were wrong.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Looks like an expected up-tick on Worldomoters today.

Not really. It's Tuesday which is usually been the highest day of the week. We are still below last Tuesday.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

If the numbers in the first couple links are correct then we're both are wrong.

Either way, what you're complaining about is not something I've ran across at all. I haven't been told that by any mainstream media, any of the websites I frequent, and I don't recall anyone posting that info in this thread.
Hell, if you look hard enough you can find some website that says anything you want.

Hey, I was just making a sarcastic comment when you people started acting like no one ever said that shit so......

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

They tested tons of people in Minnesota and the positivity rate among those who claimed to have attended a protest was actually lower than in the rest of the population.

Originally Posted by SupDock

I suspect he will.

Look at that..didn't even have to find a web site

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Look at that..didn't even have to find a web site

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

They tested tons of people in Minnesota and the positivity rate among those who claimed to have attended a protest was actually lower than in the rest of the population.

If true, bring on full NFL stadiums, especially if they are outdoor venues.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by kgrund

If true, bring on full NFL stadiums, especially if they are outdoor venues.

Never mind the fact King Dr. Fauci said today that younger people are the ones causing all the new cases this time around.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Or you could have just admitted you were wrong when I showed you exactly where you were wrong.

Blah blah blah (ignores the point about cloth masks) blah blah blah. But sure. Does it make you feel better proving people wrong? If so, by all means, ignore the greater point like you always do and focus on the minutiae if it'll help you sleep at night.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Eleazar

They tested tons of people in Minnesota and the positivity rate among those who claimed to have attended a protest was actually lower than in the rest of the population.

Do you think this is from masking?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Blah blah blah (ignores the point about cloth masks) blah blah blah. But sure. Does it make you feel better proving people wrong? If so, by all means, ignore the greater point like you always do and focus on the minutiae if it'll help you sleep at night.

Yeah that's about right. Again, you could just man up and say you were wrong or you can keep making excuses as to why it is somehow my fault you were wrong.

And does it make feel better? Sure seems to make you feel good so you can start there.