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Old 12-04-2019, 10:05 AM  
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Chris Jones pending [contract] situation
OK, so I was in the camp earlier in the season (right or wrong) that he was a great pass rusher inside but struggled against the run inside.

Yeah, I was wrong.

He's improved on that a lot this year, he's a complete all around player. He dominated Gabe Jackson and company inside against Oakland. That's not easy. He was splitting doubles, making dudes look foolish.

You've gotta keep that guy around. He's a top 10 defensive player in the league at this point, it's tough to let those guys walk.

What is everything thinking now?
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:56 AM   #31
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The smart thing is probably the tag and trade and use those resources to build a younger cheaper defense.

But you have to hit on those picks.
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:56 AM   #32
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Year: 27 Combined Tackles 6 Sacks


Jones has 19 Pass Deflections in his Career.
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:58 AM   #33
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As an FYI, both Gabe Jackson and Rodney Hudson are basically playing on one leg, so I wouldn't make much of a performance against them last time out.
How about the first game where you had 1 good drive and sucked ass the rest of the game- does that count?
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Old 12-04-2019, 10:58 AM   #34
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The only pending situation for Chris Jones is how many times he makes QBs scream like a little girl in the playoffs
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:00 AM   #35
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If you can get a Frank Clark haul from the trade, I would explore it.

Problem with that is where will the picks be. If a team like Miami would trade one of their firsts or something for him, yeah, lets do that.

I'm just not high on letting drafted, developed players walk. I realize sometimes you have to, but damn, that's ideally what you want and now you wanna let him go.

The Frank Clark deal just kills you.
Frank Clark is part of a larger, more developed problem this franchise has had for several years. The Chiefs have paid huge money to players on long deals and it has killed them. The risk is just way too large.

We were killed by the Justin Houston deal, then the Tamba Hali deal, then the Eric Berry deal and now the Frank Clark deal. Stop making that mistake.

I would also add just how good of a job Daley has done with this DL. Take out Frank Clark and Chris Jones. Now ask yourself what the other guys like Saunders, Nandi, Ogbah and Tanoh have done? Looks like Daley has coached these guys up quite a bit.

Ward is a FA after next year and deserves a deal. You can likely get Ogbah back at a far cheaper price than Jones. I’d sign them and also another player with the remaining $$ instead of paying Jones Frank Clark money.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:02 AM   #36
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If you're worried about big deals though, I'm not sure you can not do that.

The QB they wanna give the biggest deal ever has been pretty injury prone, are we supposed to be worried about that?

Bad luck just sucks sometimes.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:03 AM   #37
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Well sure, but the problem wasn't him. The problem was the QB they chose. If they had Mahomes and Mack, they'd have a championship. So that's not really an apples to apples comparison
Yeah, fair point. Still, I just don't think Jones is the difference between getting there and not. I'd rather spend a little money on upgrading the LBs and OL rather than paying Jones a massive amount on a line that has some nice developing talent.
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Yeah, fair point. Still, I just don't think Jones is the difference between getting there and not. I'd rather spend a little money on upgrading the LBs and OL rather than paying Jones a massive amount on a line that has some nice developing talent.
There's definitely a line of thinking that today's best defenses are about having 11 guys that are good players. Not great per say, but just good solid players everywhere.

Instead of the stars and somewhat scrubs model that is.
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I dont want to turn this into another "Frank Clark sucks" thread (because he doesn't) but I sure would have rather given his money to our own home grown Chris Jones.
Now we are in a position where we probably cant pay both and it appears that CJ is the better player of the two.
I like Clark and believe he has helped our D improve but I do not like the overall cost associated with acquiring him. If it ends up costing us Chris Jones it only makes Franks deal even worse for the Chiefs.
I really hope we can find a way to keep CJ.
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Give me a SB win this year and idgaf what they do with Chris Jones in 2020.
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Give me a SB win this year and idgaf what they do with Chris Jones in 2020.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:26 AM   #43
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Tag him. Listen to offers. Trade if blown away by an offer.

Extend him if you aren’t blown away by an offer.

I don’t think we should be married to any player except Mahomes. Everyone else is available for the correct compensation.
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Lol “one leg” yea sure buddy
Hudson has a badly sprained ankle and Jackson is dealing with an MCL injury.

You tell me now that works out for moving around at north of 300 lbs trying to block guys north of 300 lbs.

I really don't know why we are playing Jackson. Good was playing extremely well, and our OL play has dropped off since Jackson came back.
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When he got his sack on Sunday he got up and lapped up the crowd and was kind of laughing...it was great to see and when Chris gets going his energy is infectious and gets both his team mates and the crowd buzzing. Imo we'd be crazy to let him go.
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