need advice with family issue

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Oh OK. I'm glad you got the validation you needed to stop running away. You seem much more confident with this supposed crowd at your back. It's a moot point now though so it's a little late for you to get the courage to give me a straight answer to my simple question. I guess that means we're done here unless you can think of something else.

I didn't need any time to get up the courage. I had the courage from the beginning. I could have said anything I wanted at that point but didn't because you didn't deserve a response and a great many people agreed.

I needed the time because I walked away from the computer and went outside to build some fence. Don't get too many 60-degree days in November around here.

Let me ask you a serious question: what in the world is your point?

His mother TOLD HIM she was being abused. What AT ALL does MY definition of abuse have to do with anything? Perhaps if you explain your motivation for wanting to know, it would help the situation.

As it is, I - and about a dozen other people - see your question as typical DC-style "turn it on the victim" deflection.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I didn't need any time to get up the courage. I had the courage from the beginning. I could have said anything I wanted at that point but didn't because you didn't deserve a response and a great many people agreed.

I needed the time because I walked away from the computer and went outside to build some fence. Don't get too many 60-degree days in November around here.

Let me ask you a serious question: what in the world is your point?

His mother TOLD HIM she was being abused. What AT ALL does MY definition of abuse have to do with anything? Perhaps if you explain your motivation for wanting to know, it would help the situation.

As it is, I - and about a dozen other people - see your question as typical DC-style "turn it on the victim" deflection.

What does this have to do with politics and why do you keep mentioning that?

The point was that "abuse" hadn't been defined at all up to that point other than the fact that it was verbal. You placed A LOT of emphasis on the word ABUSE when you responded to my first post, so I wondered what you thought it meant. Maybe you realized that you didn't have a clue what his mother meant at that point or maybe you didn't, but whatever the case, our dialogue went downhill from there as a result of your insecurities.

I wonder what sportsshrink (or any other psychologist) would think about your need to repeatedly refer to all of these people who supposedly agree with you or your references to me being a DC poster. It's kind of weird behavior, IMO.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by patteeu

What does this have to do with politics and why do you keep mentioning that?

Because this type of "gotcha" behavior is generally the type of behavior you exhibit in the DC forum, when talking about politics. It very rarely comes out in the main forum from you.

Originally Posted by patteeu

The point was that "abuse" hadn't been defined at all up to that point other than the fact that it was verbal.

She said he verbally abused her, PUSHED HER, and that she was considering a restraining order. She told her son she was BEING ABUSED. Yes, it most certainly had been defined, by HER, not by me, and my definition of abuse is completely irrelevant.

Originally Posted by patteeu

You placed A LOT of emphasis on the word ABUSE when you responded to my first post

No, I didn't. I placed A LOT of emphasis on the fact that his mother has said she was BEING ABUSED. You're quibbling over words, I'm not.

And MANY people thought the same, even publicly in this thread.

Originally Posted by patteeu

Maybe you realized that you didn't have a clue what his mother meant at that point or maybe you didn't, but whatever the case, our dialogue went downhill from there as a result of your insecurities.

Again, you completely and utterly misunderstood. I fully understood what his mother meant. I don't have any insecurities, I just wasn't in the mood to listen to your psychobabble bullshit.

Originally Posted by patteeu

I wonder what sportsshrink (or any other psychologist) would think about your need to repeatedly refer to all of these people who supposedly agree with you or your references to me being a DC poster. It's kind of weird behavior, IMO.

Ironically, he agreed with my original thoughts on the situation, before you tried to derail the conversation into some kind of philosophical debates on what constitutes the word "abuse".

And again, the only weird behavior here started and ended with YOU.

Let's look at the conversation again, in a nutshell:

tooge: my mom says she's being abused, i don't like it and i don't want to go to thanksgiving

htismaqe: don't go

patteu: htismaqe, what is your definition of "abuse"

Now THAT is weird behavior.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because this type of "gotcha" behavior is generally the type of behavior you exhibit in the DC forum, when talking about politics. It very rarely comes out in the main forum from you.

I deleted my big response since we've talked this out via PM, but I just wanted to point out publicly that there was no intent for my question to be a gotcha question at all.

Sorry to hear about your update, tooge, but I'm sure I'm speaking for all of us when I say that hopefully it will work out in the long run.

[Gary]

+1 with patteau's sentiments. It is sad and doesn't make much sense. There's only so much you can control in your life. You can still maintain a happy and healthy environment for you, your wife, your children, & the rest of your extended family. Give thanks for everything that makes you smile in your life, and pray for everything that doesn't.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by patteeu

I deleted my big response since we've talked this out via PM, but I just wanted to point out publicly that there was no intent for my question to be a gotcha question at all.

Yep, all just a big misunderstanding.

Originally Posted by patteeu

Sorry to hear about your update, tooge, but I'm sure I'm speaking for all of us when I say that hopefully it will work out in the long run.

This. Sincerely.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Because this type of "gotcha" behavior is generally the type of behavior you exhibit in the DC forum, when talking about politics. It very rarely comes out in the main forum from you.



She said he verbally abused her, PUSHED HER, and that she was considering a restraining order. She told her son she was BEING ABUSED. Yes, it most certainly had been defined, by HER, not by me, and my definition of abuse is completely irrelevant.



No, I didn't. I placed A LOT of emphasis on the fact that his mother has said she was BEING ABUSED. You're quibbling over words, I'm not.

And MANY people thought the same, even publicly in this thread.



Again, you completely and utterly misunderstood. I fully understood what his mother meant. I don't have any insecurities, I just wasn't in the mood to listen to your psychobabble bullshit.



Ironically, he agreed with my original thoughts on the situation, before you tried to derail the conversation into some kind of philosophical debates on what constitutes the word "abuse".

And again, the only weird behavior here started and ended with YOU.

Let's look at the conversation again, in a nutshell:

tooge: my mom says she's being abused, i don't like it and i don't want to go to thanksgiving

htismaqe: don't go

patteu: htismaqe, what is your definition of "abuse"

Now THAT is weird behavior.

You have no idea what you're talking about.

You're classless and deranged...












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