ChiefsPlanet Would you like me to step down as a moderator of Chiefsplanet? - Page 25

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 05:54 AM

You guys essentially voted me into this role. I wanted it. I thought I would be a good fit for the role. I've always been a mediator in life. Essentially, becoming a moderator has affected my enjoyment of this site. If you've paid attention, you'll know that I don't post here nearly as often as I used too. In fact, I've noticed that's the case with all of the current moderators, and former moderators as well.

That said, I still am here daily. I read your posts, and do my best to clean up the spam, and handle the behind the scenes issues that go on with the site every day. I don't want to step down, but the fact is, I'm aware that some folks are unhappy with the way that I've handled certain situations. I'll admit it, there have been times that my emotions have affected my decisions. That's not a good thing. I've done some long and hard thinking, and decided that I cannot make snap decisions when someone pisses me off. I'm not sure there's a moderator in the history of this site that hasn't done that at one time or another though. Ultimately, I believe that I'm still a good fit for this job, and I know Kyle is satisfied with my performance to this point.

That said, I've always believed this site is all about it's user base. No, it's not a democracy. It's a free board paid for by Kyle. But it doesn't exist without you guys coming here and posting. You are the life blood of Chiefsplanet, and you are the ones that have made it the very best message board for not only the Kansas City Chiefs, but in my opinion, the entire internet.

When I came here 9 years ago this month, I had zero experience with online communities. Chiefsplanet was the first board I'd ever joined. Since then, I still have never joined another online community. Growing up in Seattle, it was amazing for me to be able to connect with a group of people that were as passionate as I was about the Chiefs. I love this place. No, it's not what it was too me, but I don't see myself ever just walking away from the board. I may not post as much, but I always read it. You guys are ****ing hilarious. I throw a bone in there once in a while myself.

Enough rambling. I'm putting my head on the chopping block. I haven't brought this up to the other mods, or Kyle. This is my decision to make, and mine alone. If you're satisfied with my work, then vote yes. Keep me on as a mod. If not, vote no. I'm a big boy. I can take it if you don't like my style. It will be a public vote for obvious reasons. No harm, no foul regardless of your take. We can still be friends, even if you don't like me as a moderator. I won't take it personal. This poll will be open all weekend, and close early Monday morning.

It's your call. Your voice. Your will on whether or not I will continue to moderate here at Chiefsplanet. Make your voice heard.

03-09-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I came up with an idea on how to moderate DC. Had both sides of the political spectrum on board. Never heard back. Not even a no thanks. Thats no biggie though. If I had to say one thing is the cause for old timers posting on the hub its the aggressiveness of posters, not mods, that's got people cutting back on their posting here.

I'm pretty sure your idea for moderating DC got lost in some blowup somewhere along the way. Kyle's directive is that we don't moderate DC unless something way over the top happens. That's what we've been doing.

**DaFace** · 03-09-2014, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

oh and just to be clear... the only people who have access to read everyone's PMS are the people with root level access to the db... which is basically ME. It would be a complete pain in the ass to do it... and I'm far too lazy to do so.

So when people accuse mods of reading PMs... they don't know what they are talking about. Don't believe me? Ask DaFace, he knows.

Verified. I really have no idea how that story continues to live.

**Gonzo** · 03-09-2014, 09:54 PM

JFC what a shit show this turned out to be.
Where's my burbon?

**AustinChief** · 03-09-2014, 09:56 PM

Side note: anyone else think it's funny that the shortened plural of Private Messages is PMS?

03-09-2014, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaFace

Verified. I really have no idea how that story continues to live.

The same way tons of people believed Hootie's manifesto. They're repeated and repeated and repeated and eventually they're undisputed fact.

**J Diddy** · 03-09-2014, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

No one was willing to have the conversation on it. I thought it was something that we could talk our way through and get at least "some" form of consensus.. it's funny that the problem ended up not being one of people disagreeing... it was one of people simply not wanting to have a thought out discussion on the matter. I kept trying to push the conversation forward and ended up mostly talking to myself.

Dear Kyle,

Kill rep.

Thanks,
Jeff

**J Diddy** · 03-09-2014, 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

The same way tons of people believed Hootie's manifesto. They're repeated and repeated and repeated and eventually they're undisputed fact.

I vaguely remember the manifesto. I distinctly remember not reading it.

**dirk digler** · 03-09-2014, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Not trying to sidetrack this thread too much... but most people think that "well it's OBVIOUS" what is racist and what isn't... yeah, that's easily said but not at all easily enforced. There is a metric ton of grey area and I always tend to err on the side of free speech.

You can't just make a "list".. it's not the simple if you want to avoid the constant bitching that comes from "judgement calls."

I think we were on a decent track before everyone got lazy and stopped discussing it.

There are certain racial terms that should be on the list and we all know what they are. the rest of your post I agree with.

My point was and continues to be Context is everything so it is almost impossible IMHO to have an all encompassing rule.

I don't want to derail this thread so I will be quiet now.

**J Diddy** · 03-09-2014, 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinChief

Side note: anyone else think it's funny that the shortened plural of Private Messages is PMS?

There is nothing funny about PMS. As a former married man it was a dreaded period. (see what I did there)

03-09-2014, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Bull

Dear Kyle,

Kill rep.

Thanks,
Jeff

I've been on board with this idea for about 7 years. We've voted several times. Most people don't think it's a problem. I did kill visitor messages, however.

**AustinChief** · 03-09-2014, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

There are certain racial terms that should be on the list and we all know what they are. the rest of your post I agree with.

My point was and continues to be Context is everything so it is almost impossible IMHO to have an all encompassing rule.

I agree but I still hold out hope that we are smart enough to develop a "test" that can be applied to limit the amount of judgement goes into it.

As for the list,if our "test" is worth a shit at all, the list would be superfluous.

**Bwana** · 03-09-2014, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

The rep system is definitely more trouble than it's worth.

I'm starting to agree with that statement and would have no issue dumping it. It seems to cause a lot of the problems around here.

**BigRedChief** · 03-09-2014, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phobia

Kyle's directive is that we don't moderate DC unless something way over the top happens. That's what we've been doing.

Thats why it's a cesspool. It brings the whole site down because shit doesn't stay in DC.

**AustinChief** · 03-09-2014, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dick Bull

Dear Kyle,

Kill rep.

Thanks,
Jeff

It' weird. I have never understood why people care or even check this. I will goes months without even remembering rep exists. As Phil pointed out, the board has consistently voted to keep it. I honestly don't care.

**J Diddy** · 03-09-2014, 10:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dirk digler

There are certain racial terms that should be on the list and we all know what they are. the rest of your post I agree with.

My point was and continues to be Context is everything so it is almost impossible IMHO to have an all encompassing rule.

Agreed. With that in mind, however, people have to be willing to bend a little. If you're using edgy terminology with a racial connotation then you should expect someone to question it. A reasonable person should be willing to back away from it if called on it. Anything less is arrogance on their part, imo.

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03-08-2014, 05:48 AM
Mr. Flopnuts FINALLY! The wait is over. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Future Is Now!!! Casino cash: $19947565	Would you like me to step down as a moderator of Chiefsplanet? You guys essentially voted me into this role. I wanted it. I thought I would be a good fit for the role. I've always been a mediator in life. Essentially, becoming a moderator has affected my enjoyment of this site. If you've paid attention, you'll know that I don't post here nearly as often as I used too. In fact, I've noticed that's the case with all of the current moderators, and former moderators as well. That said, I still am here daily. I read your posts, and do my best to clean up the spam, and handle the behind the scenes issues that go on with the site every day. I don't want to step down, but the fact is, I'm aware that some folks are unhappy with the way that I've handled certain situations. I'll admit it, there have been times that my emotions have affected my decisions. That's not a good thing. I've done some long and hard thinking, and decided that I cannot make snap decisions when someone pisses me off. I'm not sure there's a moderator in the history of this site that hasn't done that at one time or another though. Ultimately, I believe that I'm still a good fit for this job, and I know Kyle is satisfied with my performance to this point. That said, I've always believed this site is all about it's user base. No, it's not a democracy. It's a free board paid for by Kyle. But it doesn't exist without you guys coming here and posting. You are the life blood of Chiefsplanet, and you are the ones that have made it the very best message board for not only the Kansas City Chiefs, but in my opinion, the entire internet. When I came here 9 years ago this month, I had zero experience with online communities. Chiefsplanet was the first board I'd ever joined. Since then, I still have never joined another online community. Growing up in Seattle, it was amazing for me to be able to connect with a group of people that were as passionate as I was about the Chiefs. I love this place. No, it's not what it was too me, but I don't see myself ever just walking away from the board. I may not post as much, but I always read it. You guys are ***ing hilarious. I throw a bone in there once in a while myself. Enough rambling. I'm putting my head on the chopping block. I haven't brought this up to the other mods, or Kyle. This is my decision to make, and mine alone. If you're satisfied with my work, then vote yes. Keep me on as a mod. If not, vote no. I'm a big boy. I can take it if you don't like my style. It will be a public vote for obvious reasons. No harm, no foul regardless of your take. We can still be friends, even if you don't like me as a moderator. I won't take it personal. This poll will be open all weekend, and close early Monday morning. It's your call. Your voice. Your will on whether or not I will continue to moderate here at Chiefsplanet. Make your voice heard. Last edited by Mr. Flopnuts; 03-08-2014 at 05:54 AM..*
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