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Old 12-04-2019, 10:05 AM  
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Chris Jones pending [contract] situation
OK, so I was in the camp earlier in the season (right or wrong) that he was a great pass rusher inside but struggled against the run inside.

Yeah, I was wrong.

He's improved on that a lot this year, he's a complete all around player. He dominated Gabe Jackson and company inside against Oakland. That's not easy. He was splitting doubles, making dudes look foolish.

You've gotta keep that guy around. He's a top 10 defensive player in the league at this point, it's tough to let those guys walk.

What is everything thinking now?
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:35 AM   #46
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He's good, bordering great, but will he continue his play after he's paid is the question, and for how long? We just don't have a great history with players after they've been paid. Chris Jones looks like a steadfast addition for KC for many years to come, but we've been burned before by incorrect choices. It's a tough spot no doubt, especially since so many fans are behind him.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:36 AM   #47
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It was said about Kelce and Hill too.

Stop being so damn afraid of contracts.

My thinking is the same as it's ever been. Blue chip players make big plays in big games and that's why you pay to keep them.

You don't build rosters around JAG's, you build them around difference makers.
I'm not fundamentally opposed to signing him.

Mahomes and the OL need to take priority imho, though. The Andrew Luck is a big lesson that the Chiefs need to follow.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:42 AM   #48
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Still so ****ing stupid we gave Clark that autistic contract when it should have been Jones. Now we are in this situation thinking it might be better to deal Jones than keep him.
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:43 AM   #49
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We can’t afford Jones tbh. We are going to need 3 new WRs as well and some linebackers
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Old 12-04-2019, 11:46 AM   #50
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There's always the back of the mind issue that guys in the locker room will notice when you go pay guys form the outside and then a guy develops in house and you don't wanna pay him.

Jones has done pretty much everything you ask him to do, it'll be tough to let him go.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:03 PM   #51
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There's always the back of the mind issue that guys in the locker room will notice when you go pay guys form the outside and then a guy develops in house and you don't wanna pay him.
Houston, Berry, Fisher, LDT, Kelce, Hill all say hi.

I think they gotta find a way to pay him. Our pass rush is non-existent without him.

Shouldn't someone have reminded everyone in this thread already that the salary cap is a myth?
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:09 PM   #52
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yea he's great but we gotta pay mahomes and also still field a team so don't think he is sticking around if he's asking aaron donald cash.
Defence already isn’t great, so you want to take more talent away from it? You can’t build around Mahomes when you lose your best players and he’s not on the field because the D can’t stop a nosebleed.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:12 PM   #53
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Tag him. Listen to offers. Trade if blown away by an offer.

Extend him if you aren’t blown away by an offer.

I don’t think we should be married to any player except Mahomes. Everyone else is available for the correct compensation.
You win.

Plan A should be to resign him at 18-19M per season.

Plan B is tagging him and listening to offers.
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There's always the back of the mind issue that guys in the locker room will notice when you go pay guys form the outside and then a guy develops in house and you don't wanna pay him.

Jones has done pretty much everything you ask him to do, it'll be tough to let him go.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:17 PM   #55
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I don't think it's a big deal, especially in today's NFL, but it's definitely noticed.

Look at Jones and the stuff coming out about him seeing what Clark got and that being where he wants to get.

The Clark deal pretty much ended the Jones long term talk here I think.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:19 PM   #56
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I don't think it's a big deal, especially in today's NFL, but it's definitely noticed.

Look at Jones and the stuff coming out about him seeing what Clark got and that being where he wants to get.

The Clark deal pretty much ended the Jones long term talk here I think.
Yea and that’s probably the only person that really gives a ****, Jones, not the “locker room”.
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Old 12-04-2019, 12:19 PM   #57
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It was said about Kelce and Hill too.

Stop being so damn afraid of contracts.

My thinking is the same as it's ever been. Blue chip players make big plays in big games and that's why you pay to keep them.

You don't build rosters around JAG's, you build them around difference makers.
I was one of the ones skeptical about paying Hill full market value. Obviously the allegations against him changed the market, but Hill signed a fairly team friendly deal. His per year salary is up there but the guaranteed amount is not.

So I think that is a great deal for KC.

So as others are saying, if he will take a team friendly deal do it. If he wants full market value, tag and trade.
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Yea and that’s probably the only person that really gives a ****, Jones, not the “locker room”.
Well, Jones is a pretty integral part of the locker room, no? I'd imagine one of the team leaders being a bit flustered about this or that would be noticed elsewhere.
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Well, Jones is a pretty integral part of the locker room, no? I'd imagine one of the team leaders being a bit flustered about this or that would be noticed elsewhere.
Yea he’s so “flustered” he didn’t hold out or anything

It’s not an issue.
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Tough situation because of the contract Clark has and what we gave up to get Clark. You gotta just be real careful that Jones is going to continue to play as well as he has. Too often players get a big contract and fall off, especially dlineman.
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