Burgos likely heading to Mets

[The Bad Guy]

Can any Royals fans give me any info on Burgos?

I know he's 22 and throwns hard.

In return, Royals would get Brian Bannister.

[siberian khatru]

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

Stark reported on Mike and Mike that Royals offer is 4 yrs 40 million.

I like Meche, and I like him better than Batista. But I also hate giving him 4 years. I think I'd rather try to trade Emil for Lopez and gamble that he's not going to get a huge raise in arbitration.

Unless maybe Dayton is figuring that by year 4 of Meche's deal, $10 million for an average pitcher will be below market, and he fears that if Lopez is decent with us he will cost us more than $10 million by 2010.

[Archie Bunker]

I dont know if the deals for Meche and Batista are sound financial decisions or not, but I like the fact the Royals are making competive offers to some FAs.

It also shows me that maybe Moore has opened some eyes in the front office and a competive team might be on the horizon.

[ChiTown]

That's a lot of bones over a long period for the Royals to pluck down on a guy like Meche. I like the aggressiveness, but wow!

You are correct about Meche vs Batista. 28yrs old vs 35? No thanks to Batista.

[shaneo69]

I remember seeing Burgos pitch against the Cardinals this year and thinking that he would look nice in Cardinal red.

However, it sounds like he may not have the make-up to be a closer with the inconsistency he's shown in his 1st two seasons. Papelbon and Wainwright (among others) came in their rookie seasons and were consistent closers. If Burgos isn't there yet, he's probably not going to get there any time soon, if ever.

So would you rather have a guy who can be a #4 or #5 starter, or a middle relief pitcher with control issues?

[tk13]

Burgos was rushed and still pretty young, however there seemed to be a belief that he was pretty immature too. I don't know why, I know I read a couple articles at various times where people questioned his mental makeup.

To be honest, I think that might have had something to do with this trade too, since Dayton seems to put stock in a player's personality.

[beavis]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

I like Meche, and I like him better than Batista. But I also hate giving him 4 years. I think I'd rather try to trade Emil for Lopez and gamble that he's not going to get a huge raise in arbitration.

Unless maybe Dayton is figuring that by year 4 of Meche's deal, $10 million for an average pitcher will be below market, and he fears that if Lopez is decent with us he will cost us more than $10 million by 2010.

Wouldn't worry about it... looks like he's about ready to sign with the Cubs.

Someone over on kcroyals.com is saying that the Dodgers might put Penny on the block, trying to get a corner outfielder. I'd rather have him than Meche anyday, but I guess he also has a limited no trade clause.

The contracts these middle tier starters are getting are absolutely insane.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by tk13

Burgos was rushed and still pretty young, however there seemed to be a belief that he was pretty immature too. I don't know why, I know I read a couple articles at various times where people questioned his mental makeup.

To be honest, I think that might have had something to do with this trade too, since Dayton seems to put stock in a player's personality.

He definitely seems big on makeup. I guess I don't know too much about Burgos' personality, but you always hear Hernandez' problem being his makeup, for example. Moore seems to put a lot of stock as you say in that attribute.

[Archie Bunker]

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6247654

Meche close to signing with Royals

ORLANDO, Fla. - In a winter meetings stunner, free agent RHP Gil Meche is close to signing with Royals, FOXSports.com has learned.

Meche, 28, has chosen the Royals over the Cubs and Blue Jays.
The Royals also have made a 3-year, $24 million offer to free agent right-hander Miguel Batista. But Meche's deal is expected to be for more years and more money.

The Blue Jays offered Meche a contract for 4 years and $40 million, according to a major league scource.

But the Blue Jays were shut out on both Meche and free agent left Ted Lilly, increasing the possibility they will explore trades for CF Vernon Wells.

Meche pitched to an 11-8 record and a 4.48 ERA in 32 starts for the Mariners last season.

[Archie Bunker]

Rule V

Royals selected RHP Joakin Soria from the Padres with the second pick in the rule 5 draft.

Soria was picked based mostly on his strong campaign in the Mexican Pacific League. He's currently 8-0 with a 2.02 ERA and 64 strikeouts in 62 1/3 innings. The 22-year-old spent most of last season playing in the Mexican League. He doesn't have outstanding upside, but the Royals will consider carrying him as a middle reliever.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6247654

Meche close to signing with Royals

ORLANDO, Fla. - In a winter meetings stunner, free agent RHP Gil Meche is close to signing with Royals, FOXSports.com has learned.

Meche, 28, has chosen the Royals over the Cubs and Blue Jays.
The Royals also have made a 3-year, $24 million offer to free agent right-hander Miguel Batista. But Meche's deal is expected to be for more years and more money.

The Blue Jays offered Meche a contract for 4 years and $40 million, according to a major league scource.

But the Blue Jays were shut out on both Meche and free agent left Ted Lilly, increasing the possibility they will explore trades for CF Vernon Wells.

Meche pitched to an 11-8 record and a 4.48 ERA in 32 starts for the Mariners last season.

Nice. I didn't really expect us to win a pitcher that several teams were bidding for.

Nice work, Moore

Maybe this will spell the end of Runworthless Hernandez

[Archie Bunker]

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/6247654

Meche close to signing with Royals

ORLANDO, Fla. - In a winter meetings stunner, free agent RHP Gil Meche is close to signing with Royals, FOXSports.com has learned.

Meche, 28, has chosen the Royals over the Cubs and Blue Jays.
The Royals also have made a 3-year, $24 million offer to free agent right-hander Miguel Batista. But Meche's deal is expected to be for more years and more money.

The Blue Jays offered Meche a contract for 4 years and $40 million, according to a major league scource.

But the Blue Jays were shut out on both Meche and free agent left Ted Lilly, increasing the possibility they will explore trades for CF Vernon Wells.

Meche pitched to an 11-8 record and a 4.48 ERA in 32 starts for the Mariners last season.

Foxsports has updated the article. The Royals offer is 4yrs 45 million.

[Redrum_69]

Good riddance

[sedated]

Originally Posted by tk13

Burgos was rushed and still pretty young, however there seemed to be a belief that he was pretty immature too. I don't know why, I know I read a couple articles at various times where people questioned his mental makeup.

To be honest, I think that might have had something to do with this trade too, since Dayton seems to put stock in a player's personality.

Moore seems to go after a totally different type of pitcher than Allaird Baird did.

Baird was all about 'electric stuff', whereas Moore wants consistancy and control.

Moore got rid of Affeldt and Denny Bautista, now Burgos.

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by HolmeZz

Brian Bannister sucks. He's got an 89 MPH fastball, no movement, no other secondary pitches, and really not much upside.

And he's not 22, he's 26.

I'll take the kinda sucking that Bannister has been doing lately!