***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

There is some serious libel occurring in this thread and I just won’t stand for it

I’m pushing forward society by doing what I do. That’s just facts. The oral health of the world probably depends on me. I don’t carry that weight lightly

Somehow this haughty ass-wipe has a white-knight brigade.

They just want a bottle of Pappy.

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[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by O.city

There is some serious libel occurring in this thread and I just won’t stand for it

I’m pushing forward society by doing what I do. That’s just facts. The oral health of the world probably depends on me. I don’t carry that weight lightly

your the damn Nazis that do root canals. We remember you pal!

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

is this satire? 10 Years as a Respiratory Therapist but I don’t know nebulizers create an aerosol that patients inhale?

I'm asking if you are aware that the exhaled aersolized particles increase risk of infection to people in close proximity.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by O.city

There is some serious libel occurring in this thread and I just won’t stand for it

I’m pushing forward society by doing what I do. That’s just facts. The oral health of the world probably depends on me. I don’t carry that weight lightly

Just like one of your kind to pat himself on the back.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by SupDock

I'm asking if you are aware that the exhaled aersolized particles increase risk of infection to people in close proximity.

Of course. I thought it was about a person using the nebulizer by themselfs, not around others.

If you have coronovirus you shouldnt be taking your albuterol treatments near anyone. I just explained why. The aerosol goes immediately down to one cell. That why the COPD’rs get more immediate relief over the inhaler.

But if grandpa has coronavirus and using a nebulizer taking it down to one cell wide, you should GTFO immediately.

[philfree]

Covid 19
No we can't dance together
No we can't touch at all
Must practice social distancing

Covid 19
…


-Not Steely Dan

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Of course. I thought it was about a person using the nebulizer by themselfs, not around others.

If you have coronovirus you shouldnt be taking your albuterol treatments near anyone. I just explained why. The aerosol goes immediately down to one cell. That why the COPD’rs get more immediate relief over the inhaler.

But if grandpa has coronavirus and using a nebulizer taking it down to one cell wide, you should GTFO immediately.

Good deal, that's why I was confused. We were discussing MDI vs nebulizer and risk to those in close contact.

[TLO]

Any good news I may have missed in regards to theraputics today?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Does it make the person more contagious? Like when I got sick in late January and I tested negative for Flu A and B, they were both negative, my doctor tested me for RSV and I was negative for that as well. My breathing was so bad that he treated me for RSV the nebulizer being part of that regiment including Prednisone and antibiotics. Well I always take a treatment at lunch time. The week after I went back to work a couple of the people I worked with started getting sick too. One ended up being treated for Pneumonia and the other was treated for the flu.
I am wondering if I am the reason for that now.

It's possible.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by O.city

I had a guy sneeze blood in my face today after I extracted 3 abscessed teeth

I may not see tomorrow

Damn. Did you jump back about 6 feet. like you were about ready to step on a rattlesnake?

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by TLO

Any good news I may have missed in regards to theraputics today?

Costco has toilet paper today.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Costco has toilet paper today.

Great

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Costco has toilet paper today.

I was able to order two packages of TP for delivery from the local grocery store today. I think the panicky hoarders finally feel safe so thats allowing us normal folks to pick up basic stuff too.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Good deal, that's why I was confused. We were discussing MDI vs nebulizer and risk to those in close contact.

sorry my bad. Yes, it’s an obvious answer. Who in their right mind would say different?

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Mecca

Costco has toilet paper today.

We were able to purchase TP and pick it up curbside from Price Cutter. We were also turned onto Pure & Clean for some hand sanitizer.