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Mr. Wizard · 03-26-2023, 11:47 AM

2023 Kansas City Chiefs Wide Receiver Cap Hit Rankings
PLAYER
POS
CAP HIT
1
Marquez Valdes-Scantling
KC
WR $11,000,000
2
Kadarius Toney
KC
WR $1,907,228
3
Skyy Moore
KC
WR $1,466,022
4
John Ross
KC
WR $940,000
Ihmir Smith-Marsette
KC
WR $940,000
6
Cornell Powell
KC
WR $870,000
7
Jerrion Ealy
KC
WR $750,000
Ty Fryfogle
KC
WR $750,000
Justyn Ross
KC
WR $750,000

smithandrew051 · 03-26-2023, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

You guys do understand that in order to actually develop your young players, you kind of need to play them, right?

We can panic all we want, because we haven't watched every practice and sat in every meeting room. We don't know where these guys are mentally (Skyy) or physically (Toney).

but if Veach and Reid aren't worried, and they don't seem to be, maybe we ought to trust the guys that brought us two SB wins.

Just sayin'.

Sir, I’m going to need you to stop underreacting.

Chief Roundup · 03-26-2023, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Yes, but KC needs WR help this year. Anything after the first round is iffy as far as helping this year and even a WR at the end of the first is no guarantee that they would contribute much the first year.

Hell, 1st rounders are iffy historically to make an impact in their first year or ever.

**New World Order** · 03-26-2023, 04:08 PM

I think John Ross can fulfill the jet sweep Mecole role in the offense

oldman · 03-26-2023, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Still fully expecting a trade for a vet at this point. Maybe DHop, maybe someone off the radar, but someone.

I can't break away from feeling we'll have a "name" receiver to go along with a first or second round pick receiver when we open camp in St. Joe.

I'm not sure it'll be a "name", but we'll have another vet.

Moore came from a smaller school and had very little time to acclimate to the NFL level of competition. He got in the doghouse early for punt returns, but started proving his worth towards the end of the season. Toney may have had injury problems early in his career, but what's to say an offseason training program with our staff hasn't improved his chances? Justyn Ross had a pretty nice time at Clemson, just some bad luck.

We have the draft (I'll bet even Andy will play a rookie if he shines in camp), a lot of FA time left, and there will always be surprise cuts. It's not the time to panic.

**Rausch** · 03-26-2023, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

Yeah because he did nothing to contribute to s Superbowl. Morons...

Big difference between someone playing great and someone being great. MVS had a really good SB run. He played better than I thought he could. It was a career year in my opinion.

That said I don't expect him to top it anymore than I would expect Hardman to. I'm appreciative but it is what it is...

Chief Pagan · 03-26-2023, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

You guys do understand that in order to actually develop your young players, you kind of need to play them, right?

We can panic all we want, because we haven't watched every practice and sat in every meeting room. We don't know where these guys are mentally (Skyy) or physically (Toney).

but if Veach and Reid aren't worried, and they don't seem to be, maybe we ought to trust the guys that brought us two SB wins.

Just sayin'.

Just because Toney is 100% healthy at this moment and KC can look at him up close means very little as to whether he can play a full season including playoffs while staying reasonably healthy.

Maybe they have an inside reason to be optimistic on Skyy. I hope so. I spent last off season predicting he would be over drafted in fantasy leagues his freshman year but under drafted his sophomore year.

But second year breakout candidates usually finish up stronger than he did.

And how do you know Veach and Reid aren't worried? Sure, they didn't resign some WRs they could have... But maybe some other plan fell through and in hindsight that was a mistake and they are stressed out.

Would you expect them to come out and say so?

Megatron96 · 03-26-2023, 05:09 PM

What's our cap space at this point? $10M?

Gary Cooper · 03-26-2023, 05:44 PM

Are we trying to copy the Patriots? Except Welker and Edelman were pretty good, despite being shorter white guys.

Abba-Dabba · 03-26-2023, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Are we trying to copy the Patriots? Except Welker and Edelman were pretty good, despite being shorter white guys.

Let's hope not.

Good artists copy, great artists steal.

Chris Meck · 03-26-2023, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Pagan

Just because Toney is 100% healthy at this moment and KC can look at him up close means very little as to whether he can play a full season including playoffs while staying reasonably healthy.

Maybe they have an inside reason to be optimistic on Skyy. I hope so. I spent last off season predicting he would be over drafted in fantasy leagues his freshman year but under drafted his sophomore year.

But second year breakout candidates usually finish up stronger than he did.

And how do you know Veach and Reid aren't worried? Sure, they didn't resign some WRs they could have... But maybe some other plan fell through and in hindsight that was a mistake and they are stressed out.

Would you expect them to come out and say so?

They told us the plan back during combine week. You guys are the ones insisting that can't possibly be the plan.

Megatron96 · 03-26-2023, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Are we trying to copy the Patriots? Except Welker and Edelman were pretty good, despite being shorter white guys.

And remember, it took Wes Welker about two full seasons to become a regular starter that was worth anything. Edelman took four years to amount to anything.

And at the end of the day, both were just slot possession WRs. They moved the chains and that's about it.

Chris Meck · 03-26-2023, 06:00 PM

I'm sure they bring back JWat and add a high pick, but I don't think a lot of you guys are going to be happy. Until late September, when the Chiefs are rolling again.

Megatron96 · 03-26-2023, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

They told us the plan back during combine week. You guys are the ones insisting that can't possibly be the plan.

It's not. I mean, good on you for believing, but there's just no way Andy rolls into 2023 with MVS, Toney and Skyy as the 'returning vets' and backing them up with a couple mid-round drafted WRs and the dregs we currently have in the likes of Marsette, Powell and the Ross brothers. No team in the NFL would do that.

And if they were, why not then re-sign JuJu or Hardman, or pick up the likes of Adam Thielen on the cheap? Why bother with creating all the cap space? Why touch Pat's deal, which is supposed to be a "only-break-glass in case of emergency" option?

Answer: Veach is quietly planning on bringing in a veteran WR, either along the lines of a Corey Davis type, or he's going big game hunting (Odell/DeHop).

It's really the only play that makes realistic sense at this point.

Chief Pagan · 03-26-2023, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I'm sure they bring back JWat and add a high pick, but I don't think a lot of you guys are going to be happy. Until late September, when the Chiefs are rolling again.

Late September for everything to be rolling in Chief's land?

I'm gonna' take the over on that.

Mr. Wizard · 03-26-2023, 06:33 PM

I must admit I wonder what our contingency plan is in the event of wide receiver injuries.

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