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Old 12-31-2011, 03:52 PM  
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2012 Kansas City Royals Repository Thread
2012 Slogan: Our Time

A better, more accurate 2012 Slogan: It is Finally Next Year
(from Great Expectations)

An alternative slogan if you don't like that one: Someone has to win this crappy division
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With the beginning of a new year, it is time for the 2012 version of the Royals Repository Thread. We've got Hosmer, we've got a 2011-dominating Gordon, we've got Moose, we've got hopefully a killer bullpen, we've got a stereotypical slow slugging DH, we've got easily one of the best defensive shortstops in the AL, we've got a promising catcher in Salvador Perez. Hell, we've got offense and promising prospects galore.

We do not have starting pitching.

Oh yeah, we've also got this:



Get ready for, (as of January 2012 anyway), one of the most confusing puzzles of a baseball season in recent Royals history. Will they suck? Maybe, I don't know. Will we be given a year of 0.500 baseball? Possibly, I don't know. Will they win the division and go to the playoffs for the first time in 27 years? For the first time in a long time, it could happen, I don't know. 92 losses, 92 wins, or anything in between would not surprise a lot of us.

Everything goes here except Gameday threads and really big news. If a giant story breaks, the Royals achieve some awesome milestone, or we sign/lose a highly significant player/coach/mascot/whatever, then it might also deserve its own thread. This being Chiefs Planet, please do not clutter the board with new threads about trivial Royals news or you will only annoy those who come here for just Chiefs football. If you aren't sure and its not a Gameday thread, it goes here.

What sort of stuff often goes here? SPchief explained it well, so I'll just copy that:

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Old 06-28-2012, 11:00 AM   #4291
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While we're talking about collisions... did anyone see the Lincecum/Billingsley play at the plate?

I'm still someone in shock that:

1) Lincecum tried to block the plate
2) Billingsley tried to slide.

Billingsley is about my size or a little bigger (6-2, 225). I would have trucked Lincecum into next week for trying to block the plate on me.
Add to more reasons why I like Lincecum so much
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:08 AM   #4292
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Couple things...

1) Myers was a catcher for his senior year of high school (played CF and SS and 3B before that), then played 1/2 of his 2009 Minor League games there and 75/126 games there in 2010. He is not a lifelong catcher (and, judging by reports of his defensive abilities behind the plate, was never really a catcher, anyway).

2) I disagree that you need plus speed to play CF. It is a nice tool to have, but there have been a lot of very good CF who did not have more than decent speed (Dale Murphy, Jim Edmonds, to name a few modern ones). Myers has good-enough speed - for now - to play CF. The bigger question I'd have is how he reads the ball and what kind of routes he takes. If he reads it well and takes good routes, Myers can be an acceptable CF defender.
Reading the ball is easier in CF than for corner spots because the ball doesn't tend to have as much spin on it when hit up the middle.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:34 AM   #4293
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Couple things...

1) Myers was a catcher for his senior year of high school (played CF and SS and 3B before that), then played 1/2 of his 2009 Minor League games there and 75/126 games there in 2010. He is not a lifelong catcher (and, judging by reports of his defensive abilities behind the plate, was never really a catcher, anyway).

2) I disagree that you need plus speed to play CF. It is a nice tool to have, but there have been a lot of very good CF who did not have more than decent speed (Dale Murphy, Jim Edmonds, to name a few modern ones). Myers has good-enough speed - for now - to play CF. The bigger question I'd have is how he reads the ball and what kind of routes he takes. If he reads it well and takes good routes, Myers can be an acceptable CF defender.
Yep. A player needs plus instincts, not necessarily plus speed. And Dyson is a case study for how shitty instincts mitigate speed.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:53 AM   #4294
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Yep. A player needs plus instincts, not necessarily plus speed. And Dyson is a case study for how shitty instincts mitigate speed.
Exactly.

And good point by Saul, too.
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Old 06-28-2012, 11:55 AM   #4295
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Add to more reasons why I like Lincecum so much
He should have been broken in half on that play. I respect him for wanting to block the plate, but you have to make the defender pay for doing that. ESPECIALLY if it isn't the catcher and he's waiting for the throw.

I've spoken to him in person. Guy is all of about 5-8/150. Mitch Kramer is an apt comparison. Billingsley should have trucked him. Would have at least scored... might have shaken Lincecum up a bit, too.
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Old 06-28-2012, 12:06 PM   #4296
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You need plus speed to play center field, I don't care how well you hit. I don't see a converted catcher being able to cover enough ground. I've never seen a single indication from anyone that Myers is anything other than a RF at the major league level.
Biggio played a little CF (though admittedly a lot more 2b) after playing catcher for his first few years in the majors.
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Biggio played a little CF (though admittedly a lot more 2b) after playing catcher for his first few years in the majors.
jayson werth, dale murphy...to name a few ex catchers who played CF.
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Nope they would want Machado or Bundy not gonna happen plus the O's suck right now.
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