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**gblowfish** · 04:04 PM

If you were on the rules committee, what rules would you consider changing to improve the game?

Here's my list:

1) OPI or DPI is a 10 yard penalty from where the ball is snapped. No automatic first down, no spot fouls.

2) Concussion Protocol: If refs determine you target and hit a guy in the head, and he is removed from the game for concussion protocol, it's a 15 yard penalty, plus the player who commits the target is disqualified for as long as the targeted player is out. For example, if he misses the rest of the game, the guy who laid the hit is out for the game. If he's out two weeks, they guy who hit him is out two weeks, etc. Plus a game check is forfeited by the hitter for that game, and every game the targeted player is out.

3) Illegal contact. Five yard penalty, but no automatic first down.

4) Two personal fouls in one game, ejection, loss of paycheck from that game, suspension and loss of paycheck for the next game. This would include the playoffs.

5) Extra point moved from the 15 to the 25 yard line. If you want to go for two, ball is placed at the five yard line.

All paychecks that are lost: funds go to CTE Research.

How about you? What would you change?

**gblowfish** · 01-23-2018, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

The rules are fine.

They way they are called is garbage.

Get rid of the holding call, but force olinemen to wear mittens. It is the single most abused part of the game that isn’t even close to being called even.

I tried to get Todd Haley to wear mittens. He refused.

Chief Pagan · 01-23-2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

1) OPI or DPI is a 10 yard penalty from where the ball is snapped. No automatic first down, no spot fouls.

I still think that there should be two versions. If the DB very clearly interferes and it is likely the receiver could have made the catch, spot foul. When the interference is murkier and/or the catchability is murkier, make it 5 yard foul and no automatic first down.

I think other fouls should also have two versions. There are too many 15 yard roughing the passer fouls. For the less serious ones, hand accidentally hits the QB's helmet, I would allow the refs to call a 5 yard version that does not have an automatic first down.

**DaFace** · 01-23-2018, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

That is like saying you want to get rid of instant replay.

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Can you confidently say that instant replay has improved the game? I sure can't.

Chief Pagan · 01-23-2018, 04:06 PM

I would get rid of the fumble into the endzone is a touchback. I think it would be better to let the offense keep it where the fumble occurred. Alternately, a buddy of mine suggested that if fumbing into the endzone is a turnover, fumbling out of bounds should also be a turnover. So if the offense loses the ball and it goes out of bounds with no one controlling it, it is a turnover. I'm not sure if I would like it, but it did make me think a bit.

Chief Pagan · 01-23-2018, 04:09 PM

Under 2 minutes in each half, I would have the clock stop until the ref has set the ball and gotten out of the way. I don't think the game should depend on how quickly some grey haired dude can pick the ball up, run over and set it, and then get out of the way.

Chief Pagan · 01-23-2018, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by gblowfish

5) Extra point moved from the 15 to the 25 yard line. If you want to go for two, ball is placed at the five yard line.

Just get rid of the extra point kick. When a TD is scored, it is 7 points. Go to commercial break while the TD is reviewed, and unless it is not a TD or the teams wants to go for 2, the kickoff happens as soon as commercial break is over.

Team can alternately take the 6 points and go for 2.

Discuss Thrower · 01-23-2018, 04:21 PM

Penalties against an offense that currently result in a half the distance to the goal administration is instead administered by adding 5 yards to the line to gain.

"Pulling him to the ground" as is currently spelled out in the definition of holding can only trigger a holding penalty if the player is not on his own two feet or in the process of going to ground as a consequence of any legal block he may have carried out.

Defensive holding administered on passing play if a defender makes contact with an eligible receiver more than five yards past the line of scrimmage if a legal forward pass is attempted and that legal forward pass is thrown in the area between the center of the goal post and nearest sideline in which the foul is committed.

Defensive pass interference can be called if :

a) an eligible receiver's arms are grasped and impeded from being moved from outside the frame of his own torso when a legal forward pass is thrown in an area where it is assumed he could have made a fair move toward the ball had he not been clearly grasped by the defender and the defensive player does not make contact with the ball before touching the receiver.

b) an eligible receiver is driven to the ground by the arms, shoulders or upper body of a defender if both players are more than five yards past the line of scrimmage and a legal forward pass is thrown to the area between the center of the goal post and the nearest sideline in which the foul is committed

c) [insert anything that is palpably obvious ****ery by a defensive player]

**RealSNR** · 01-23-2018, 04:32 PM

Make calls like DPI challengable. It's too big of a call to just let the ref go, "Well, I THINK I saw something."

Frazod · 01-23-2018, 04:48 PM

All plays should be reviewable. And there should be an official watching on TV just like all of us who see the uncalled shit that can call it.

Also, referees should be held accountable for horrible calls, and actually FIRED if they go full Tripplette.

Of course none of that will ever happen, because obviously if the Patriots continue to win all is well.

Frosty · 01-23-2018, 05:01 PM

I would eliminate the practice squad, expand the roster to 65 and get rid of the stupid, outdated inactive rule. It would allow a team to play and develop fringe players in the event of a blowout and would allow an adequate number of backups.

Also, I would keep DPI a spot foul but make it automatically reviewed by an independent judge. Same with targeting or unnecessary roughness penalties.

They also need to add more cameras. There is no excuse in this day and age to not have an adequate view on a review, especially goal line or sideline.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-23-2018, 05:13 PM

#1 - De-emphasize any rule that barely affects the game. As in, practically eliminate them. Taunting, excessive celebration, unsportsmanlike conduct that doesn't involve fighting or delay. Take the subjective bullshit out of this sport.

#2 - I'm with you on OPI/Defensive holding rules. I'd also like rules committee to de-emphasize DPI in general - it's been incredibly controversial

#3 - An NFL version of the targeting rule. If you lead with your helmet, ONLY IF you knock another player out, defensive player should be booted too. Bounty hunting is really bad for the game

#4 - Change the ridiculous rule around calling fumbles out of the end zone touchbacks

**gblowfish** · 01-23-2018, 06:08 PM

New CP Lexicon: "That call went Full Triplett!"

Frosty · 01-23-2018, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

#1 - De-emphasize any rule that barely affects the game. As in, practically eliminate them. Taunting, excessive celebration, unsportsmanlike conduct that doesn't involve fighting or delay. Take the subjective bullshit out of this sport.

Like calling holding on every single punt or kick return. Don't call that shit if it isn't blatant and/or doesn't affect the play any.

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

#4 - Change the ridiculous rule around calling fumbles out of the end zone touchbacks

I like that rule. It's a way for a defense to make a great play and get the ball back, like Parker did against Buffalo several years ago.

LiveSteam · 01-23-2018, 06:20 PM

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**srvy** · 01-23-2018, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Frosty

Like calling holding on every single punt or kick return. Don't call that shit if it isn't blatant and/or doesn't affect the play any.

I like that rule. It's a way for a defense to make a great play and get the ball back, like Parker did against Buffalo several years ago.

The league needs to define all rules so there is no doubt. End the judgement calls for the refs. Then really grade these pricks if the get so many marks send them to a relief pool with fines. If that doesnt fix it and they fail again suspension the third time is relieved of duties.

01-23-2018, 03:14 PM
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17646178 VARSITY	What Rules Would You Change? If you were on the rules committee, what rules would you consider changing to improve the game? Here's my list: 1) OPI or DPI is a 10 yard penalty from where the ball is snapped. No automatic first down, no spot fouls. 2) Concussion Protocol: If refs determine you target and hit a guy in the head, and he is removed from the game for concussion protocol, it's a 15 yard penalty, plus the player who commits the target is disqualified for as long as the targeted player is out. For example, if he misses the rest of the game, the guy who laid the hit is out for the game. If he's out two weeks, they guy who hit him is out two weeks, etc. Plus a game check is forfeited by the hitter for that game, and every game the targeted player is out. 3) Illegal contact. Five yard penalty, but no automatic first down. 4) Two personal fouls in one game, ejection, loss of paycheck from that game, suspension and loss of paycheck for the next game. This would include the playoffs. 5) Extra point moved from the 15 to the 25 yard line. If you want to go for two, ball is placed at the five yard line. All paychecks that are lost: funds go to CTE Research. How about you? What would you change? Last edited by gblowfish; 01-23-2018 at 04:04 PM..
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01-23-2018, 04:06 PM	#34
Chief Pagan Sometimes it's black and white Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Casino cash: $3604900	I would get rid of the fumble into the endzone is a touchback. I think it would be better to let the offense keep it where the fumble occurred. Alternately, a buddy of mine suggested that if fumbing into the endzone is a turnover, fumbling out of bounds should also be a turnover. So if the offense loses the ball and it goes out of bounds with no one controlling it, it is a turnover. I'm not sure if I would like it, but it did make me think a bit.
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01-23-2018, 04:09 PM	#35
Chief Pagan Sometimes it's black and white Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: California Casino cash: $3604900	Under 2 minutes in each half, I would have the clock stop until the ref has set the ball and gotten out of the way. I don't think the game should depend on how quickly some grey haired dude can pick the ball up, run over and set it, and then get out of the way.
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Discuss Thrower "You like to drink?" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: "I like to drink." Casino cash: $3076869	Penalties against an offense that currently result in a half the distance to the goal administration is instead administered by adding 5 yards to the line to gain. "Pulling him to the ground" as is currently spelled out in the definition of holding can only trigger a holding penalty if the player is not on his own two feet or in the process of going to ground as a consequence of any legal block he may have carried out. Defensive holding administered on passing play if a defender makes contact with an eligible receiver more than five yards past the line of scrimmage if a legal forward pass is attempted and that legal forward pass is thrown in the area between the center of the goal post and nearest sideline in which the foul is committed. Defensive pass interference can be called if : a) an eligible receiver's arms are grasped and impeded from being moved from outside the frame of his own torso when a legal forward pass is thrown in an area where it is assumed he could have made a fair move toward the ball had he not been clearly grasped by the defender and the defensive player does not make contact with the ball before touching the receiver. b) an eligible receiver is driven to the ground by the arms, shoulders or upper body of a defender if both players are more than five yards past the line of scrimmage and a legal forward pass is thrown to the area between the center of the goal post and the nearest sideline in which the foul is committed c) [insert anything that is palpably obvious **ery by a defensive player] __________________ Chiefs 2016 Opponents: Home: JAX, TEN, NO, TB, NYJ. Away: HOU, IND, ATL, CAR, PIT Chiefs 2017 Opponents**: Home: BUF, MIA, PHI, WSH, AFC North. Away: NE, NYJ, NYG, DAL, AFC South
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Frazod WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $2945085	All plays should be reviewable. And there should be an official watching on TV just like all of us who see the uncalled shit that can call it. Also, referees should be held accountable for horrible calls, and actually FIRED if they go full Tripplette. Of course none of that will ever happen, because obviously if the Patriots continue to win all is well.
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Frosty Go Beavers! Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Warshington Casino cash: $5538243	I would eliminate the practice squad, expand the roster to 65 and get rid of the stupid, outdated inactive rule. It would allow a team to play and develop fringe players in the event of a blowout and would allow an adequate number of backups. Also, I would keep DPI a spot foul but make it automatically reviewed by an independent judge. Same with targeting or unnecessary roughness penalties. They also need to add more cameras. There is no excuse in this day and age to not have an adequate view on a review, especially goal line or sideline.
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chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $1924497	#1 - De-emphasize any rule that barely affects the game. As in, practically eliminate them. Taunting, excessive celebration, unsportsmanlike conduct that doesn't involve fighting or delay. Take the subjective bullshit out of this sport. #2 - I'm with you on OPI/Defensive holding rules. I'd also like rules committee to de-emphasize DPI in general - it's been incredibly controversial #3 - An NFL version of the targeting rule. If you lead with your helmet, ONLY IF you knock another player out, defensive player should be booted too. Bounty hunting is really bad for the game #4 - Change the ridiculous rule around calling fumbles out of the end zone touchbacks
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