Chiefs Only TWO games since Kareem left!! - Page 4

UChieffyBugger · 11-05-2019, 10:44 AM

Has a Chiefs running back rushed for a hundred yards in a game. Sunday's 145 by Damien was the first since his 103 at Seattle last season. Honestly I know Andy hates running the ball but that stat is utterly pathetic tbh. I think finally replacing Kareem's production is vital for this team moving forward so we can take the pressure off of Pat, give opposing defenses something else to worry about and also compete for time of possesion. We all saw how weak against the run the Pats were on Sunday and what a good running game can do...so I hope Veach has plans to land a quality RB In the offseason. Most teams have their number one back so the draft could be kind to us tbh with Taylor, Swift, Harris, Dobbins, Ettien etc all there to be had.

Chief Roundup · 11-05-2019, 12:28 PM

I have yet to see where anyone tied to the Chiefs FO such as Matt Derrick, Terez Paylor or Nate Taylor say that Veach was actually trying to get Bell. I do not believe he was, that was just scuttle butt by the general media.
Our RBs have had 161 attempts to run the ball. Where our QBs have had 332 attempts of passing the ball. It is hard to establish the run when the coaches don't try and run the ball. The problem is not the RB it is the OL and coaching, if you are looking at the running game as a problem.

eDave · 11-05-2019, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

Did Kareem play Sunday? When does he play again? Browns should just trade him at this point.

Back to us.

-King- · 11-05-2019, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim

Hunt had one game where he rushed for more than 100 yards in 2018.
WTF is your point?

Grand opening, Grand closing.

suzzer99 · 11-05-2019, 02:04 PM

Anybody who can't see Hunt was a legit weapon the other team had to account for doesn't really understand football. I don't care about his stats - they had to gameplan around him which opened things up for the passing game. Also he never fumbled, which as we have seen lately is kind of an important part of the process. When we got a nice lead, you could just pound Hunt into them all day until they wore down and he broke a big one. I firmly believe if he doesn't get a first down on 3rd and 9 vs. Pitt, all on his own effort, we lose that game.

Our offense when totally healthy last year, with Hunt, might have been the most potent offense ever assembled. 4 skill players with HOF potential (Mahomes, Hill and Kelce are almost locks at this point if they stay healthy and out of trouble), and Watkins a super-plus player. And 4 pro-bowl level o-linemen. And one of the greatest offensive coaches in NFL history.

Hoover · 11-05-2019, 02:11 PM

Agree. Hunt was an awesome back. And it sucks that he's not here.

Hunt was the perfect back for our 1st year starting QB too. Still, even if he was here, and Pat is healthy, I don't think Andy Reid and the Chiefs look like the Vikings.

comochiefsfan · 11-05-2019, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Agree. Hunt was an awesome back. And it sucks that he's not here.

Hunt was the perfect back for our 1st year starting QB too. Still, even if he was here, and Pat is healthy, I don't think Andy Reid and the Chiefs look like the Vikings.

Nobody wants to be the Vikings. Not with Pat.

We just need the offense to be more balanced than it has been up to this point.

Chargem · 11-05-2019, 03:58 PM

Surely you have to look at play action when comparing run vs pass attempts? If play action plus actual run attempts is more like 50%, you can't tell me that the run game needs to be established.

And, my feeling is that spending high draft picks or pretty much any amount of cap on running backs is reeruned. If you want to protect Pat, invest in the line. It will get you more out of your run game as well as protecting Pat, the investment returns double.

BryanBusby · 11-05-2019, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

Andy will find someone. He always does.

Not this season though. KC misjudged what Williams could contribute. I mean it was a nice run, but he's been extremely ineffective most of the season.

I still think KC is capable of having a good running game, but you have to try and run the ball to do that.

They didn't misjudge anything. They don't have unlimited resources and had to flip a lot of roster spots so not every position can be addressed to your liking in a single offseason.

ThyKingdomCome15 · 11-05-2019, 04:12 PM

Should have never cut Kareem. It cost us the Super Bowl.

BryanBusby · 11-05-2019, 04:14 PM

Kareem Hunt shouldn't have been out assaulting women. It's 100% on Kareem Hunt.

-King- · 11-05-2019, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

Should have never cut Kareem. It cost us the Super Bowl.

How exactly did it cost us the Superbowl? Please do tell.

Chief Pagan · 11-05-2019, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim

Hunt had one game where he rushed for more than 100 yards in 2018.
WTF is your point?

And he has only had one fumble in his NFL career. I wouldn’t have signed him to a big second contract, but it sucks KC didn’t get all of his rookie contract.

Bump · 11-05-2019, 04:32 PM

What we've learned is that unless the player is going to be kicked out of the league for good or he's going to prison or something like that, never release a player for off the field shit. Some other team just gets him for free when you do that.

CoMoChief · 11-05-2019, 04:37 PM

Wish wed trade for Kareem in offseason.

Still pissed he was let go.

CoMoChief · 11-05-2019, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

How exactly did it cost us the Superbowl? Please do tell.

Kareem was a Pats killer.

Doubt the Chiefs are held to 0 1st half pts had Kareem been playing.

11-05-2019, 10:44 AM
UChieffyBugger CP'S "MOST HATED" 😆 Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $2450400	Only TWO games since Kareem left!! Has a Chiefs running back rushed for a hundred yards in a game. Sunday's 145 by Damien was the first since his 103 at Seattle last season. Honestly I know Andy hates running the ball but that stat is utterly pathetic tbh. I think finally replacing Kareem's production is vital for this team moving forward so we can take the pressure off of Pat, give opposing defenses something else to worry about and also compete for time of possesion. We all saw how weak against the run the Pats were on Sunday and what a good running game can do...so I hope Veach has plans to land a quality RB In the offseason. Most teams have their number one back so the draft could be kind to us tbh with Taylor, Swift, Harris, Dobbins, Ettien etc all there to be had.
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suzzer99 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: L.A. Casino cash: $2794284	Anybody who can't see Hunt was a legit weapon the other team had to account for doesn't really understand football. I don't care about his stats - they had to gameplan around him which opened things up for the passing game. Also he never fumbled, which as we have seen lately is kind of an important part of the process. When we got a nice lead, you could just pound Hunt into them all day until they wore down and he broke a big one. I firmly believe if he doesn't get a first down on 3rd and 9 vs. Pitt, all on his own effort, we lose that game. Our offense when totally healthy last year, with Hunt, might have been the most potent offense ever assembled. 4 skill players with HOF potential (Mahomes, Hill and Kelce are almost locks at this point if they stay healthy and out of trouble), and Watkins a super-plus player. And 4 pro-bowl level o-linemen. And one of the greatest offensive coaches in NFL history. Last edited by suzzer99; 11-05-2019 at 02:10 PM..
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1488179	Agree. Hunt was an awesome back. And it sucks that he's not here. Hunt was the perfect back for our 1st year starting QB too. Still, even if he was here, and Pat is healthy, I don't think Andy Reid and the Chiefs look like the Vikings.
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Chargem Veteran Join Date: Feb 2018 Casino cash: $3770400	Surely you have to look at play action when comparing run vs pass attempts? If play action plus actual run attempts is more like 50%, you can't tell me that the run game needs to be established. And, my feeling is that spending high draft picks or pretty much any amount of cap on running backs is reeruned. If you want to protect Pat, invest in the line. It will get you more out of your run game as well as protecting Pat, the investment returns double.
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ThyKingdomCome15 MVP Join Date: Jun 2019 Casino cash: $2560400	Should have never cut Kareem. It cost us the Super Bowl.
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BryanBusby In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2006 Casino cash: $3759900 VARSITY	Kareem Hunt shouldn't have been out assaulting women. It's 100% on Kareem Hunt.
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