***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Sure but this per million test rate comparing is reeruned. Always had been, if the United States and Germany had both only tested one person each Germany would still be ahead by that metric.

Also that means Germany has more confirmed cases per a million.

It's a dumb shift after testing numbers for the US Sky rocketed.

No, it isn't. Per capita is the true metric. Total tests mean virtually nothing.

[burt]

Originally Posted by SAUTO

there are 180 to 195 people dying in NY in their houses every day that aren’t even getting tested.

The numbers don’t really mean much

Which is why people arguing over "the numbers" is so damn funny!!!

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Sure but this per million test rate comparing is reeruned. Always had been, if the United States and Germany had both only tested one person each Germany would still be ahead by that metric.

Also that means Germany has more confirmed cases per a million.

It's a dumb shift after testing numbers for the US Sky rocketed.

Testing is definitely easier with lower population especially when it is concentrated in a smaller area, Canada is at 330k tested which is close to Spain and catching up to Korea although our country is vast we have only 3 major centres and most of our population is mostly concentrated near the border.

We are testing similar to the US as far as strategy though but I would prefer Germany's approach.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

No, it isn't. Per capita is the true metric. Total tests mean virtually nothing.

ok then Germany and South Korea have more cases per capita than the United States. Hence they are doing worse with the Coronavirus than us?

Do you see why that metric is skewed.

[KChiefs1]

My niece just sent me this to make me feel better.

Spirit Week Events Lift Morale
Optimism Grows in Wake of COVID-19


FSD - Crazy Sock Day
FSD leadership in two different areas of the state had similar ideas to lift the morale of team members during the COVID-19 pandemic – “Spirit Week” – in Jefferson City.

On the 9th Floor of the Jefferson Building in Jefferson City, the IM Customer Relations Unit, Quality Assurance/Quality Control Unit, and FAMIS team celebrate Spirt Week April 13-April 17.



Day 1 – Crazy Sock Day

“Spirit Week will be a welcome distraction from the tension and stress we all are dealing with right now,” expressed CIS II Drew Koons with the IM Customer Relations Unit.


FSD - Hat Day
The event was set up to do something to take staff’s minds off the serious nature of what they are working through each day, even if only for a minute.

“The goal was to bring a few smiles and laughs.” said CRU Manager Anna Beckett.



Day 2 – Hat Day

Other themes include Team Spirit Day, Decades Day, and DSS Pride Day.

“We are just trying to find ways to lighten the mood and create something fun and positive to look forward too.” said Cara Newham, Social Service Manager Nursing Home Units. “This will be fun & quite interesting!”

Spirit Day 3 - PJ & Onesie Day

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Testing is definitely easier with lower population especially when it is concentrated in a smaller area, Canada is at 330k tested which is close to Spain and catching up to Korea although our country is vast we have only 3 major centres and most of our population is mostly concentrated near the border.

this



Donger Iceland is killing it at 81,000 per a million tested!

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

My niece just sent me this to make me feel better.

What no Superbowl champion Kansas City Chiefs day.

[Ninerfan11]

Originally Posted by Donger

No, it isn't. Per capita is the true metric. Total tests mean virtually nothing.

Total tests mean a lot. This isn't a black/white issue.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

ok then Germany and South Korea have more cases per capita than the United States. Hence they are doing worse with the Coronavirus than us?

Do you see why that metric is skewed.

The question was about testing. And that per capita testing numbers are "reeruned" in your opinion. That's wrong.

It's all about per capita. We have done 2,000,000 tests. We have 350,000,000 people. Germany has done 918,000 tests and they have 83,000,000 people.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Ninerfan11

Total tests mean a lot. This isn't a black/white issue.

Why does total tests mean a lot?

[The Franchise]

Welp. Just found out that my Mom went and got tested this morning. Have to wait 24-48 hours to find out. She’s retired and hasn’t been out of the house in a while.

Hopefully it’s just a cold.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

The question was about testing. And that per capita testing numbers are "reeruned" in your opinion. That's wrong.

It's all about per capita. We have done 2,000,000 tests. We have 350,000,000 people. Germany has done 918,000 tests and they have 83,000,000 people.

Sure and Iceland has tested very few but per million they are at 81,000 per a million. The metric is not good for measuring much of anything.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

Why does total tests mean a lot?

lmao

[Ninerfan11]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Donger Iceland is killing it at 81,000 per a million tested!

Guy is so disingenuous.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Sure and Iceland has tested very few but per million they are at 81,000 per a million. The metric is not good for measuring much of anything.

Sure it is. They've tested a vastly higher percentage of their population than we have. That's why per capita is vastly more important than total test numbers.