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Old 02-17-2021, 02:14 PM  
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Do you own an Electric car or plan to buy one
I plan to get one in the future, what are your plans?

If so what are your pluses or minuses ?
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:18 AM   #121
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The only thing, and I mean only thing that is superior about an ICE is how quick it is to just get gas on long trips.

Having an EV if you rarely take long trips is actually better as you never have to go to the gas station. But if they could ever figure out how to charge ur battery in less than 10 minutes fully it would be a game changer for EVs.
It's coming quick. I believe the new Lucid air can charge 300 miles in 20 minutes with the right charger.
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Old 02-21-2021, 04:43 AM   #122
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and the manual transmission

but you go ahead and eat gummy bears like the 6 year old that you are while you should be concentrating on the road princess.
Nah. I fiddle with my phone all the time on auto pilot. Dont care.

Not the best idea but my car doesn't get drivet fatigue like I do.
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Old 02-21-2021, 09:01 AM   #123
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Just a few questions for those that have them. How long does it take to charge at home? I see some people talking about charging stations, but how long do those take? What's the cost, both at home and on the road?
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Old 02-21-2021, 09:13 AM   #124
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I'm awaiting delivery of a supercharged V8 Ram TRX. I ordered it back in August because I know the days are numbered for combustion V8's and I wanted to get one while I could. EV technology isn't there yet. Can you freaking imagine taking a cross country trip and having to stop and charge for an hour every three hours or so?! I'd be so pissed. With all of that said, I just added onto my garage to make it a four car garage and I asked them to add electric charging ports in all four bays when they come back to do the inside finish work. It's inevitable that I'll eventually own EV's.
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Old 02-21-2021, 09:16 AM   #125
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Just a few questions for those that have them. How long does it take to charge at home? I see some people talking about charging stations, but how long do those take? What's the cost, both at home and on the road?
I just charge mine overnight. If you are literally going from zero to full, it's about 8 hours for mine, but 90% of the time I'm just topping off from the day's driving.

Fast chargers are more like 0-80% in half an hour. (The final 20% goes a little slower to prolong battery life.)

Mind you all of this is for a 2018 Nissan Leaf. There's a lot of variation.

As for home equipment, I had a 50 amp outlet installed in my garage (like a dryer outlet), which cost about $600. My charger came with the car, but I think they run $500ish otherwise.
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Old 02-21-2021, 09:27 AM   #126
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What's the life expectancy of the batteries? Are they replaceable? How much?
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Old 02-21-2021, 09:44 AM   #127
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What's the life expectancy of the batteries? Are they replaceable? How much?
It's a tricky question. The batteries are like your cell phone. They don't just randomly die, but they do lose capacity. Most of them come with a reasonable warranty (believe mine is 80%+ for 80k miles).

All this stuff is definitely complicated though. Every car is a little different. Tesla says their batteries are good for 300-500k miles, but again, that's not literally at 100% capacity.

They're technically replaceable, but they're not cheap.
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Old 02-21-2021, 10:50 AM   #128
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Yes we own a 2020 Tesla model 3 all wheel drive long range version.

Its the wife's car and she said unless we can't afford it in the future its the only car company she wants to drive now.

Saves us way more money than the Porsche that she had before.

Had for a year now and basically about a $10-20 bump per month in electricity vs. $200-250 in gas plus her $500 oil changes ( Porsche)

Plus adds new features every couple months, its amazing.
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Old 02-21-2021, 02:12 PM   #129
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What's the life expectancy of the batteries? Are they replaceable? How much?
Can anyone confirm or deny this report?

“ Parts and labor combined, it costs almost $16,000 to replace a Tesla Model 3 battery pack.

Breaking it down, Tesla shop rates may vary from location to location, but the location this was performed at runs $175 per hour, meaning the battery replacement job is estimated to take a little over 13 hours.

For the battery pack, the $13,500 customer price isn’t exactly indicative of the Tesla’s cost to build one either, there could be a margin on the part to help cover costs or create profit. Additionally, there’s an important three-letter code present on the battery line-item: RMN, short for remanufactured.”

https://www.currentautomotive.com/ho...lacement-cost/
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“ Parts and labor combined, it costs almost $16,000 to replace a Tesla Model 3 battery pack.



Breaking it down, Tesla shop rates may vary from location to location, but the location this was performed at runs $175 per hour, meaning the battery replacement job is estimated to take a little over 13 hours.



For the battery pack, the $13,500 customer price isn’t exactly indicative of the Tesla’s cost to build one either, there could be a margin on the part to help cover costs or create profit. Additionally, there’s an important three-letter code present on the battery line-item: RMN, short for remanufactured.”



https://www.currentautomotive.com/ho...lacement-cost/
It's probably accurate. I don't know how much I'd care (not like I price out replacing the drive train in an ICE car before I buy it), but like I said, they aren't cheap.
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Old 02-21-2021, 03:43 PM   #131
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and the manual transmission

but you go ahead and eat gummy bears like the 6 year old that you are while you should be concentrating on the road princess.
Manual transmission is antiquated, much like the goatee you likely have.
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Old 02-21-2021, 04:11 PM   #132
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Manual transmission is antiquated, much like the goatee you likely have.
Not really antiquated, but I would say they fall under inconvenience to most people.


It takes automatic transmissions 8-10 gears to match up to the fuel mileage of a 5-6 speed gets. They are much simpler to fix, way cheaper to fix, last just as long, don’t need a standalone controller to run.


I would take a manual over an auto 95% of the time, only time I prefer auto is stand still traffic
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Old 02-21-2021, 04:30 PM   #133
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Just curious for those of you that own or are in the know, how does the warning system work for low battery? I'm sure there's a gauge but like my Ram truck has a low fuel light that says you gotta get gas. So does it give you a warning light like that and how many miles do you have to find a supply?

And what happens if you run it dead on the highway? You can't just jump start??? Is there a truck that comes along with a charger???
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It's probably accurate. I don't know how much I'd care (not like I price out replacing the drive train in an ICE car before I buy it), but like I said, they aren't cheap.
Thank you. I’m trying to think of a single part in an ICE vehicle that would incur a comparable charge. You’d probably also have to compare probability of failure for that part vs. probability of battery failure for this Tesla model to get closer to a valid comparison.
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Manual transmission is antiquated, much like the goatee you likely have.
I take it you you don’t drive sports cars, muscle cars, off-road Jeeps, or any other vehicle that is more effective or fun with a manual.
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