Chiefs Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck. - Page 512

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-28-2013, 11:28 AM

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JF08 · 10-28-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

They've been negative since it was announced that Alex Smith was coming to KC. Why should that stop? They've been consistent about thier dislike for the trade if nothing else. The only way I expect that will ever change is when Alex starts having fantasy football stats like Manning and doesn't leave anything on the field that they can bitch about.

For far he hasn't done the first and he has the later.

But their reason for the negativity about the trade was that he could not win games, was not a good QB, etc. The team is 8-0, now they're saying he "can't win the Super Bowl." Does the bar just keep getting moved up? If he wins the Super Bowl, will they complain that he won't make the Hall of Fame?

What happened to just enjoying success, cheering for the team, and especially being happy that the franchise has been completely transformed in ONE off-season?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-28-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by JF08

But their reason for the negativity about the trade was that he could not win games, was not a good QB, etc. The team is 8-0, now they're saying he "can't win the Super Bowl." Does the bar just keep getting moved up? If he wins the Super Bowl, will they complain that he won't make the Hall of Fame?

What happened to just enjoying success, cheering for the team, and especially being happy that the franchise has been completely transformed in ONE off-season?

Not good enough.

**Bearcat** · 10-28-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

They've been negative since it was announced that Alex Smith was coming to KC. Why should that stop? They've been consistent about thier dislike for the trade if nothing else. The only way I expect that will ever change is when Alex starts having fantasy football stats like Manning and doesn't leave anything on the field that they can bitch about.

For far he hasn't done the first and he has the later.

Yeah, why should it stop? Everything the rational posters have been saying has turned out to be true. He is who we thought he was... but yeah, 8 years plus 8 games isn't enough time.

The "have some patience" thing is kind of amusing though... all we've been doing is waiting to see if anything changes, while others jumped on his bandwagon after the first week or two, if they weren't already on it. It's not like any of us can do anything else.

And the Manning thing is a strawman.

duncan_idaho · 10-28-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by JF08

But their reason for the negativity about the trade was that he could not win games, was not a good QB, etc. The team is 8-0, now they're saying he "can't win the Super Bowl." Does the bar just keep getting moved up? If he wins the Super Bowl, will they complain that he won't make the Hall of Fame?

What happened to just enjoying success, cheering for the team, and especially being happy that the franchise has been completely transformed in ONE off-season?

Most common criticism of Alex Smith at the time of the trade was that he was a mediocre, mid-tier, game-managing QB who couldn't put the team on his back when necessary to be the REASON his team won rather than a contributing factor ranking somewhere below the defense/special teams/running game. That he wasn't a QB who could win playoff games and run the gauntlet against elite, complete teams.

The bar hasn't changed.

aturnis · 10-28-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by JF08

I'm not saying that. I'm saying have some ****ing patience. Just because a certain outcome has happened before in KC, doesn't mean that same outcome will happen again.

Besides, what do you guys gain by being negative and looking for everything wrong with Smith?

It's not about the past. Its about the fact that he has been a horrid QB that came at a steep price. Of this is what we get, the outcome will not be favorable.

What exactly do you gain from ignoring his ineptitude to this point and making excuses for him?

JF08 · 10-28-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Not good enough.

When will it be "good enough?" When you have a QB who lights it up statistically but you lose games (like Romo, Geno Smith, etc)? THAT will give you "hope?"

**Bearcat** · 10-28-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JF08

But their reason for the negativity about the trade was that he could not win games, was not a good QB, etc. The team is 8-0, now they're saying he "can't win the Super Bowl." Does the bar just keep getting moved up? If he wins the Super Bowl, will they complain that he won't make the Hall of Fame?

What happened to just enjoying success, cheering for the team, and especially being happy that the franchise has been completely transformed in ONE off-season?

The bar has always been set at competing with the big boys and winning playoff games. I don't think I've seen one person who's said he can't win games. Tim Tebow and Matt Cassel could win games, FFS.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-28-2013, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JF08

When will it be "good enough?" When you have a QB who lights it up statistically but you lose games (like Romo, Geno Smith, etc)? THAT will give you "hope?"

Franchise QB or death. Smith is shit.

Jakemall · 10-28-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JF08

But their reason for the negativity about the trade was that he could not win games, was not a good QB, etc. The team is 8-0, now they're saying he "can't win the Super Bowl." Does the bar just keep getting moved up? If he wins the Super Bowl, will they complain that he won't make the Hall of Fame?

What happened to just enjoying success, cheering for the team, and especially being happy that the franchise has been completely transformed in ONE off-season?

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

Not good enough.

Some of them will back down if a play-off game is won. Part of the problem is that so many coaches before have made similiar moves and it RARELY works out. So this group for the most part is once bitten twice shy. They're enjoying the wins...but they can't let themselves believe and take the chance they'll come away broken hearted.

aturnis · 10-28-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Most common criticism of Alex Smith at the time of the trade was that he was a mediocre, mid-tier, game-managing QB who couldn't put the team on his back when necessary to be the REASON his team won rather than a contributing factor ranking somewhere below the defense/special teams/running game. That he wasn't a QB who could win playoff games and run the gauntlet against elite, complete teams.

The bar hasn't changed.

This. My stand has not changed and he's done nothing but prove the naysayers right over and over again.

l4z4rd · 10-28-2013, 11:40 AM

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This. My stand has not changed and he's done nothing but prove the naysayers right over and over again.

so what will change your opinion? Beat the Broncos? Win the division? Win a playoff game? Win the superbowl? Win the superbowl and be named superbowl MVP?

Sandy Vagina · 10-28-2013, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

They're enjoying the wins...but they can't let themselves believe and take the chance they'll come away broken hearted.

they call those people cowards where I am from...

JF08 · 10-28-2013, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by aturnis

It's not about the past. Its about the fact that he has been a horrid QB that came at a steep price. Of this is what we get, the outcome will not be favorable.

What exactly do you gain from ignoring his ineptitude to this point and making excuses for him?

A horrid QB? Lol come on. Only an idiot would say he's been THAT bad. I'd rank him somewhere 15-20. C+/B- type grade so far. He played far better in SF the past two seasons and I expect as he gets used to the players and system around him, he will improve (as he has every year since he's been in the league).

The difference between "fans" of Alex is we are realistic. We understand the process and time that it takes to build a great QB/offense/team. We see the potential in Alex, the good play, but can also criticize him. He's missed some easy throws that have me scratching my head, it's infuriating. But I put it in perspective - all QB's miss throws and he will improve.

You haters simply say "he sucks." Your arguments are 100% emotion based, like that of a female. Don't we get enough emotional arguments from our women? I thought a football MB was for MEN to analytically discuss their team? If I wanted an emotional argument about football I'd talk to my wife.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-28-2013, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by l4z4rd

so what will change your opinion? Beat the Broncos? Win the division? Win a playoff game? Win the superbowl? Win the superbowl and be named superbowl MVP?

It's a start.

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

they call those people cowards where I am from...

"Stalker". That's what we call you where I come from.

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