Who are you betting on this weekend?

[diqlix]

I may tease the line to get the Bills to -10 or -13 and a nice payday.

How about you? Who do you have your money on?

I’m thinking WFT too. Could be an upset.

[mililo4cpa]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

...going into a thread about Von Miller to get people riled up about Tyreek Hill, and then continuing the same thing in a 2nd thread.
...responding to the situation by saying "the mods think Tyreek is off limits"
...going into a thread about Mahomes' prep for the playoffs to mention ypu're afraid the Chiefs will lose to the Ravens and won't meet up with the Bills when they make it to the AFCCG.
...randomly posting opinions on the Bills from Cowherd and others and then playing the aww shucks, I'm just posting what he said, when it riles up people.
...constantly talking about the arrogance of Chiefs fans in vague terms while also opinion spamming how amazing the Bills are, posting 250 times in two days to show how amazing the Bills are, openly talking about how the Bills will steamroll the Colts, etc.


I mean, you could just have no self awareness of how your posts will be received and how they will hijack threads, except you've used the friendlier term "tease" when you're blatantly trying to get under people's skin.

I would add:
1. Literally his first post was about how all Chiefs fans were arrogant....and for us to be humble....imagine that, a Bills fan coming to a Chiefs board to tell us we need to be humble....
2. Many, myself included, have tried to have actual football discussion (such as how the Bills match up with the Chiefs, what are the Bills going to do differently next time, etc.), and he literally keeps saying "past games are not indicators of the future", "we had injuries!", "chiefs will probably win....", and the infamous "Since Week 8, the bills are awesome!!!!!".....that's it....no Xs and Os, just posting dumb stats that only support the Bills are awesome and will win the Super Bowl....
3. He spouts off that he's "been a member for 10 years..." as if he's part of the community, only to discover that he showed up 10 years when the Bills were good, posted a few times, then disappeared for 10 years, only to come back and pollute every post with his drivel.....and then acts like he's "somebody" here....

It's lame at best....

[Sassy Squatch]

It's downright bizarre. On one hand he's clearly trying to troll but on the other he's desperately seeking validation and reassurance.

[diqlix]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Of course Mahomes can't be the GOAT yet you ignorant fool. That takes time

All joking aside, thank you for admitting this.

There are Chiefs fan who actually think Mahomes is the GOAT already.

[diqlix]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

That would be two seasons of awards, actually.

Mahomes is a shoo-in the the HOF right now, but not the GOAT. Being the GOAT is all about accomplishments, not physical abilities. That's why Brady is the GOAT and not Marino, in spite of the fact that as an actual passer, Marino was light-years beyond anything Brady could even dream of being. But Brady has the Rings and the other hardware, so he's the GOAT.

It would take at a minimum another 5-7 seasons at Patrick's current level of play to have a shot at GOAT status. Call it three more Rings, two more SB MVPs, a couple more regular season MVPs, somewhere north of 45,000 yds, around 400 TDs/70 INTs . . . something like that would probably get it done.

If Mahomes retired today, you think he is a shoo-in for the HOF?

[diqlix]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

Now that only 1 team from each conference receives a bye makes it that much more important. Pretty dang tough to win three playoff games in a row.

It actually does.

Because the reason bye teams make the Super Bowl is often because the teams that get the bye are the best teams in the conference.

If the 6-10 Giants got a bye week, they wouldn’t make the super bowl.

The bye isn’t a magic thing. It’s that they’re awarded to the best teams.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by daquix

If Mahomes retired today, you think he is a shoo-in for the HOF?

I think probably. He has the big awards already. Super Bowl Ring, Super Bowl MVP, regular season MVP, his record in the playoffs, his TD/INT ratio in the playoffs, second-youngest to throw 5000/50, fastest to 100 TDs, and a pretty extensive pile of other records that someone else can list if they want to.

There's plenty of HOF QBs that don't have just the first three things I listed there.

And I'm not blue-skying the idea. The idea that Patrick is already a HOF candidate has been floated by the likes of Louis Riddick, Dan Orlovsky, Trey Wingo, Jim Rome, Mike Greenberg, etc., since winning LIV.

The case could be made that Mahomes, between his accomplishments and his absurdly efficient production, has already made a place for himself in the HOF.

In fact, it's already been made by some of those gentlemen I referred to above.

I think that he could play three more seasons and not win another SB and easily be a first-ballot HOFer, if his production stayed right where it is. He'd have played 6 seasons, amassed over 30,000 yds, around 300 TDs vs. about 40-50 INTs.

Skipping the ridiculous TD/INT ratio, which is better than any HOF QB that ever played, those numbers take most QBs about a decade to earn. And there's plenty of QBs that never threw 300 TDs, or 30,000 yds.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by Superturtle

It's downright bizarre. On one hand he's clearly trying to troll but on the other he's desperately seeking validation and reassurance.

Bisquick has posted close to 350 posts on this board since Sunday.

Imagine being so manically obsessed with another team that you basically ignore the fact your team has a playoff game on Saturday (not against the Chiefs).

And if you somehow win the Wild Card round game (which would be a first for your franchise since 1995), you then have to win a SECOND playoff game before you’d have a chance to face your daddy, the Chiefs.

Bisquick’s 350 post obsession confirms we own him like a bitch.

[diqlix]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I think probably. He has the big awards already. Super Bowl Ring, Super Bowl MVP, regular season MVP, his record in the playoffs, his TD/INT ratio in the playoffs, second-youngest to throw 5000/50, fastest to 100 TDs, and a pretty extensive pile of other records that someone else can list if they want to.

There's plenty of HOF QBs that don't have just the first three things I listed there.

And I'm not blue-skying the idea. The idea that Patrick is already a HOF candidate has been floated by the likes of Louis Riddick, Dan Orlovsky, Trey Wingo, Jim Rome, Mike Greenberg, etc., since winning LIV.

The case could be made that Mahomes, between his accomplishments and his absurdly efficient production, has already made a place for himself in the HOF.

In fact, it's already been made by some of those gentlemen I referred to above.

I think that he could play three more seasons and not win another SB and easily be a first-ballot HOFer, if his production stayed right where it is. He'd have played 6 seasons, amassed over 30,000 yds, around 300 TDs vs. about 40-50 INTs.

Skipping the ridiculous TD/INT ratio, which is better than any HOF QB that ever played, those numbers take most QBs about a decade to earn. And there's plenty of QBs that never threw 300 TDs, or 30,000 yds.

I think you’re seeing with Chiefs glasses on.

There are many QB’s with 1 Super Bowl and good stats that are not in the Hall of Fame.

It’s about sustained success.

3 more seasons (which you mentioned), then I agree.

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[ForeverIowan]

Originally Posted by daquix

It actually does.

Because the reason bye teams make the Super Bowl is often because the teams that get the bye are the best teams in the conference.

If the 6-10 Giants got a bye week, they wouldn’t make the super bowl.

The bye isn’t a magic thing. It’s that they’re awarded to the best teams.

Simple statistics there, pal. The fewer games you have to play against accomplished opponents to make the Super Bowl the better your probability. Not magic, of course, but increases your odds significantly. According to you and several other talking heads looking for clicks the Chiefs aren't the best team in the AFC heading into the playoffs. Im sure that has been the case in the past 7 seasons as well several times.

[diqlix]

Originally Posted by ForeverIowan

Simple statistics there, pal. The fewer games you have to play against accomplished opponents to make the Super Bowl the better your probability. Not magic, of course, but increases your odds significantly. According to you and several other talking heads looking for clicks the Chiefs aren't the best team in the AFC heading into the playoffs. Im sure that has been the case in the past 7 seasons as well several times.

The amount of bye week teams were cut in half. The odds of bye week teams making the SB were therefore cut in half.

Simple stats.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by daquix

I think you’re seeing with Chiefs glasses on.

No, I'm not. You say you're a numbers guy; simply check his stats/awards/accomplishments vs. the list of QBs currently in the HOF. Based on stats alone, he's probably in now, in consideration with his SB win, a reg. season MVP, and SB MVP.

Then consider the consistency of his production. He's averaging more than 4,500 yards/season, averaging more than 38 TDs/season, just 8 INTs/season, a 38-8 W/L record, 6 4th Q comebacks, 7 game-winning drives, etc.

And remember, he actually missed 3.75 games in his career. Had he actually played those games his TD total would be at least 120, or at least 40 TDs/season, a TD/INT ratio of over 5:1? That's a league record, btw.

And we haven't even started talking about all those next gen stats people nowadays like to talk about. Like that he has the highest ANY/A number in league history.

Or that he's likely to be the fastest to 15,000 yds. Fastest to 200 TDs. Et cetera and so on.

the fact is, that Mahomes already has smashed a long list of NFL records in just three years as a starter, in spite of missing 3.75 games.

Then add in the SB, MVP awards, the 5000/50, etc., and it's pretty clear that Mahomes right now if he retired after this season, would be almost a lock for a first-ballot HOF. Certainly he would be a HOFer at some point, just based on his stats and record-breaking career as it stands.

Which is to say nothing of the eye test, which doesn't even need stats to prop up his claim to a jacket. He's the QB version of Barry Sanders. You don't need stats to see that the guy is unique, and uniquely gifted at his position. just watch him play. That's literally all anyone really needs to know.

[Megatron96]

And didn't you see in my other post that this isn't my idea?

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Bisquick has posted close to 350 posts on this board since Sunday.

Imagine being so manically obsessed with another team that you basically ignore the fact your team has a playoff game on Saturday (not against the Chiefs).

And if you somehow win the Wild Card round game (which would be a first for your franchise since 1995), you then have to win a SECOND playoff game before you’d have a chance to face your daddy, the Chiefs.

Bisquick’s 350 post obsession confirms we own him like a bitch.

Apparently he's on other boards as well. Its almost disturbing to think of how many posts he probably has. Talk about no life.

[diqlix]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

No, I'm not. You say you're a numbers guy; simply check his stats/awards/accomplishments vs. the list of QBs currently in the HOF. Based on stats alone, he's probably in now, in consideration with his SB win, a reg. season MVP, and SB MVP.

Then consider the consistency of his production. He's averaging more than 4,500 yards/season, averaging more than 38 TDs/season, just 8 INTs/season, a 38-8 W/L record, 6 4th Q comebacks, 7 game-winning drives, etc.

And remember, he actually missed 3.75 games in his career. Had he actually played those games his TD total would be at least 120, or at least 40 TDs/season, a TD/INT ratio of over 5:1? That's a league record, btw.

And we haven't even started talking about all those next gen stats people nowadays like to talk about. Like that he has the highest ANY/A number in league history.

Or that he's likely to be the fastest to 15,000 yds. Fastest to 200 TDs. Et cetera and so on.

the fact is, that Mahomes already has smashed a long list of NFL records in just three years as a starter, in spite of missing 3.75 games.

Then add in the SB, MVP awards, the 5000/50, etc., and it's pretty clear that Mahomes right now if he retired after this season, would be almost a lock for a first-ballot HOF. Certainly he would be a HOFer at some point, just based on his stats and record-breaking career as it stands.

Which is to say nothing of the eye test, which doesn't even need stats to prop up his claim to a jacket. He's the QB version of Barry Sanders. You don't need stats to see that the guy is unique, and uniquely gifted at his position. just watch him play. That's literally all anyone really needs to know.

I suppose we will have to agree to disagree.

It’s nothing against Mahomes, I just don’t think ANY player would make the HOF after 3 years.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by daquix

I think you’re seeing with Chiefs glasses on.

There are many QB’s with 1 Super Bowl and good stats that are not in the Hall of Fame.

It’s about sustained success.

3 more seasons (which you mentioned), then I agree.

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"Good" stats

Career (2017-2020): 14,152 yards, 114 TDs, 24 Ints, 108.7 QB rating

Including one season of 5,000+ yards and 50 TDs. Only the second player EVER to do that.

"Good" stats...