The Punisher (Netflix series)

[BigRichard]

Originally Posted by dmahurin

So seeing as the the punisher and the daredevil exist in the same universe, and daredevil and the teenage mutant ninja turtles were mutated from the same slime at the same time, what are the odds that Frank and Micro's hideout is an old TMNT hideout. All the old computers, hidden lair, etc. Even the van they drive around in looks like it is a modern turtle van. I'm calling a TMNT cameo in either daredevil or the punisher in the next few seasons.

It would be interesting but I highly doubt it.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by dmahurin

So seeing as the the punisher and the daredevil exist in the same universe, and daredevil and the teenage mutant ninja turtles were mutated from the same slime at the same time,

Isn't that a fan fiction theory that has never been confirmed by Marvel?

[dmahurin]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Isn't that a fan fiction theory that has never been confirmed by Marvel?

the story of both. The TMNT one is from the first issue.

[Jamie]

I liked it okay in and of itself, but I'm a little disappointed I'll probably never see my preferred take on the Punisher. Basically I think Punisher works the best when he's not really the main character, or at least not the character that the emotional thread of the story runs through. To me what was human in Punisher died with his family, and what's left is like the monster in a horror movie, except he kills people that deserve it.

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Isn't that a fan fiction theory that has never been confirmed by Marvel?

It's not canon or anything, but that was the intent in the TMNT story (as posted above). It's more of an easter egg, or a wink-and-nod to the fact that TMNT was a pseudo-parody of what was popular in comics at that time: ninjas (Daredevil) and teenage mutants (X-Men/New Mutants).

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by dmahurin

So seeing as the the punisher and the daredevil exist in the same universe, and daredevil and the teenage mutant ninja turtles were mutated from the same slime at the same time, what are the odds that Frank and Micro's hideout is an old TMNT hideout. All the old computers, hidden lair, etc. Even the van they drive around in looks like it is a modern turtle van. I'm calling a TMNT cameo in either daredevil or the punisher in the next few seasons.

Different universes.

Turtles only play homage to Daredevil.

[Buehler445]

I finished this Thursday. It was amazing. I watched the Emergency Awesome review on it in which he said, "You'll either love this because you love the Punisher or you'll hate it because it makes you feel like crap." Shit is HEAVY.

He's half right. I don't necessarily love the Punisher, but I'm not afraid of violent, dark television. There just isn't much in it that's happy. Like, at all. It handled a tremendous amount of violence, especially in an environment of fear caused by mass shootings, very well. I don't know how the critics are handling it, but I thought it's approach to PTSD and the helplessness felt by combat vets very smartly. It also felt very real. Daredevil is pretty gritty, but you're still watching a blind guy fight criminals. Punisher is a military guy fighting other military guys, and it FEELS real.

Bernthal is great. Dude is very nuanced. There is essentially 3 different versions of Castle that Bernthal executes brilliantly: 1. Soldier mode Castle - laser focused and lethal, 2. undercover Castle - very charming and disarming, 3. normal Castle - broken, can't make eye contact, stutters some. It is really a brilliant performance. I still say the Daredevil S2 cemetary scene is one of the best (essentially) monologues in Television. But every time he talks about his family it is just incredible. He also makes it feel very real with little nuanced mannerisms. Like when he's in the diner and the waitress tells him not to take too long and he mumbles "yeah, right." under his breath. That is really hard to pull off without sounding like a douchenozzle. His performance is full of nuanced little mannerisms like that. I can't say enough about Bernthal's performance. He's so ****ing good.

Initially I didn't really like Madani, Stein, or even Micro. But a few episodes in, I was hooked. I'm not sure if their performances got better or if I just warmed up to them and their roles in the story had real impact for me.

The only thing I could nitpick at all was they overdid the whole "women make emotional decisions." bit. You don't get to where Madani is by being an emotional wreck that can't get shit done because she's too busy being emtional and doing stupid shit. Same for Karen. Also Karen's story didn't really have any resolution, but looking back, most of Rosario Dawson's story lines are just kind of there too. More of a tool than a character arc. But those nitpicks are super minute. The show was really really good.

I can't say enough about how much I love this show. As heavy as it is.

I can't have everything I watch be that heavy, but this is so good.

[lawrenceRaider]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I finished this Thursday. It was amazing. I watched the Emergency Awesome review on it in which he said, "You'll either love this because you love the Punisher or you'll hate it because it makes you feel like crap." Shit is HEAVY.

He's half right. I don't necessarily love the Punisher, but I'm not afraid of violent, dark television. There just isn't much in it that's happy. Like, at all. It handled a tremendous amount of violence, especially in an environment of fear caused by mass shootings, very well. I don't know how the critics are handling it, but I thought it's approach to PTSD and the helplessness felt by combat vets very smartly. It also felt very real. Daredevil is pretty gritty, but you're still watching a blind guy fight criminals. Punisher is a military guy fighting other military guys, and it FEELS real.

Bernthal is great. Dude is very nuanced. There is essentially 3 different versions of Castle that Bernthal executes brilliantly: 1. Soldier mode Castle - laser focused and lethal, 2. undercover Castle - very charming and disarming, 3. normal Castle - broken, can't make eye contact, stutters some. It is really a brilliant performance. I still say the Daredevil S2 cemetary scene is one of the best (essentially) monologues in Television. But every time he talks about his family it is just incredible. He also makes it feel very real with little nuanced mannerisms. Like when he's in the diner and the waitress tells him not to take too long and he mumbles "yeah, right." under his breath. That is really hard to pull off without sounding like a douchenozzle. His performance is full of nuanced little mannerisms like that. I can't say enough about Bernthal's performance. He's so ****ing good.

Initially I didn't really like Madani, Stein, or even Micro. But a few episodes in, I was hooked. I'm not sure if their performances got better or if I just warmed up to them and their roles in the story had real impact for me.

The only thing I could nitpick at all was they overdid the whole "women make emotional decisions." bit. You don't get to where Madani is by being an emotional wreck that can't get shit done because she's too busy being emtional and doing stupid shit. Same for Karen. Also Karen's story didn't really have any resolution, but looking back, most of Rosario Dawson's story lines are just kind of there too. More of a tool than a character arc. But those nitpicks are super minute. The show was really really good.

I can't say enough about how much I love this show. As heavy as it is.

I can't have everything I watch be that heavy, but this is so good.

Did they already sign up for a Punisher season 2? Perfectly set up one with the ending of the show.

Really some of the very best TV I've ever watched.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Did they already sign up for a Punisher season 2? Perfectly set up one with the ending of the show.

Really some of the very best TV I've ever watched.

I haven't heard what the plan is. To my knowledge nothing has been set in stone.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I don't know how the critics are handling it, but I thought it's approach to PTSD and the helplessness felt by combat vets very smartly. It also felt very real. Daredevil is pretty gritty, but you're still watching a blind guy fight criminals. Punisher is a military guy fighting other military guys, and it FEELS real.

Oh, I'm sure plenty of vets will relate to it.

[Tribal Warfare]

https://www.theverge.com/platform/am...-season-she-ra

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

https://www.theverge.com/platform/am...-season-she-ra

That didn't take long.

[Sure-Oz]

Just finished this.... enjoyed it alot. Bernthal def is the Punisher...curious how they'll go in s2

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Just finished this.... enjoyed it alot. Bernthal def is the Punisher...curious how they'll go in s2

I hope they do Punisher kills the Marvel Universe variant.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

I hope they do Punisher kills the Marvel Universe variant.

Never happen.

Perhaps animated...

[Clyde Frog]

Made it about halfway through the season and found myself fast forwarding through any time the lady cop was not at work. They need to just can the whole angle of her personal life. Complete waste of time. Uninteresting, cardboard characters. Don't give a shit about her or her family.