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Old 03-21-2023, 10:23 AM  
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Old 03-21-2023, 11:45 AM   #46
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You don't think someone like Coburn couldn't be had in the 3rd? Keanu Benton?

I think there are a LOT of 3rd/4th round DTs in this draft, actually. Even quite a few with inside/outside potential. Jerrod Clark, DJ Dale, Jacob Slade, Cam Young, PJ Mustipher, Broderic Martin; presumably a few more...

And no, not all of them will slide that far, but some will. And maybe some guys we don't expect to fall into the 3rd like Karl Brooks or Jaquelin Roy. I think Brooks is a GREAT fit and since he didn't get invited to the combine could easily stay under the radar and slide to us in the 3rd and potentially even the 4th.

Nah - we can easily find a nice player in the middle rounds, IMO. There's decent depth at IDL in this draft, IMO. Not amazing, but solid.
Pretty much how I feel about it.
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Old 03-21-2023, 11:47 AM   #47
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I think people get enamored with Mazi because he's so big and strong and moves well so he's more "classic"
Sure - if you can get a tank in the middle who ALSO collapses the pocket or can get a little penetration, well that's just aces.

But what's that have to do with Derrick Nnadi?

Just seems like a non-sequitur. Somewhere between Jerry Rice and Snoop Minnis is a player we can really use.
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:03 PM   #48
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I personally think run stuffers do matter, and they are not a position you should take lightly.

DJ Reader is a big reason why the Bengals defense gets away with all of its exotic crap. He's immovable, even against an elite interior like the Chiefs have. The Bengals do all kinds of weird stuff and leave a relatively bare bones DL alignment in place because Reader can shut down the business all by himself.

That said, I don't think there is a 1- or 0-technique block of granite DL the Chiefs have access to at the end of the 1st. Keeanu Benton is the closest you get and he'd be a really good pick at 31 in my opinion. Not my favorite pick, but a great one nonetheless. But in all likelihood, there will be better options available, including at DE where you pretty much have to go at this point.

Benton has a lot more juice to get upfield than I originally thought, but he's still a plugger that you can't move.
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:03 PM   #49
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Of all the guys we could have and did lose, he's the one that didn't need to come back.
Yeah....this news didn't make me jump for joy. But as long as they're not planning to start him, I'm cool with it. They need depth.
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:05 PM   #50
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Honestly, I can't figure why the Chiefs didn't give Danny Shelton playing time last year. Shelton's under contract now so who knows.

That guy is a pure 0-tech with long arms.

For a guy with a reputation for being a brilliant personnel gameplanner, Spags can be so dogmatic sometimes.
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:07 PM   #51
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Honestly, I can't figure why the Chiefs didn't give Danny Shelton playing time last year. Shelton's under contract now so who knows.

That guy is a pure 0-tech with long arms.

For a guy with a reputation for being a brilliant personnel gameplanner, Spags can be so dogmatic sometimes.
Did Shelton sign a futures deal off the practice squad or something? I didn't realize veterans were eligible for that. I don't understand why he didn't get PT last year either.
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:07 PM   #52
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Old 03-21-2023, 12:53 PM   #53
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Honestly, I can't figure why the Chiefs didn't give Danny Shelton playing time last year. Shelton's under contract now so who knows.

That guy is a pure 0-tech with long arms.

For a guy with a reputation for being a brilliant personnel gameplanner, Spags can be so dogmatic sometimes.
Shelton did play in a couple games, iirc. At least one. I remember because the poor guy had to drop into coverage on a play. One of the funnier things i saw in 2022 was that dude actually being in phase with a WR for a few steps.

But yeah, I'd liked to have seen more of him. I'm seriously hoping he's in shape (for him) come OTAs.
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Old 03-21-2023, 01:06 PM   #54
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While I've been as hard on this guy in the past as anyone in here - probably more than anyone - I did notice that he actually picked it up a bit and played reasonably well the last maybe 1/3 of the season and into the playoffs. Not enough for me to want him re-signed, but he did start playing better - not that it was a high bar to reach. And I'm not saying that just because we signed him, I said it about a month ago.

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There's a bunch of receipts in this forum of me blasting Nnadi's play earlier this year. I was harder on him than anyone. But I've got to admit he actually picked it up a little in the last few regular season games and in the playoffs. He didn't get blown 5 yds backwards every play, his motor was better, and he was actually in on a handful of plays and did a very serviceable job overall.

But it's time to move on. He got a couple rings, did something nice for dogs iirc, seemed like a good dude, and didn't embarrass the franchise. He shouldn't have to pay for a drink within a 200 mile radius of KC for the rest of his time on earth. Best of luck to him, sincerely.
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Old 03-21-2023, 01:15 PM   #56
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He qualifies for the 1.5m qualified veteran cap reduction program because he’s been here for 4+ years. So I’d imagine he signed for vet min and his salary won’t count against the cap.

Even then, he’s been terrible enough that every year we’ve needed to go dumpster diving to improve the run defense with him not being good at all.
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Positives about Derrick Nnadi

1. He has stayed healthy for his KC football career. He has not missed games in the 5 years he has been in KC.
2. He will be very familiar with the defense.
3. Coaches know what he can do.
4. He won't cost too much. This is an assumption since his 2023 contract has not been reported yet.
5. He fits in with team chemistry.
6. He can get better from last year.
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