Chiefs Chiefs agree to trade Alex Smith to Washington - Page 103

Quesadilla Joe · 09:56 AM

Now you wait until March 14th for it to become official...

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Fuller was PFF's #6 OVR CB last year, is a FA in 2020...

https://www.profootballfocus.com/nfl...l-fuller/10718

Spoiler!

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/nfl...197508249.html

RunKC · 02-12-2018, 08:26 PM

I’ve never seen someone live in someone’s head rent free like Alex Smith does to Clay. It’s crazy.

Also, Alex was a top 10 paid QB 1 time in 2015 but it wasn’t a big deal since he was making penning the year before. He was an average QB and paid as such.

threebag · 02-12-2018, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

No. Wrong. Incorrect. Factually inaccurate.

Smith's QB rating from 2013-2016 was 92.2.

That would have ranked 17th in 2015.

His YPA was 7.0.

That would have ranked 25th in 2015.

Backup level play.

Blow me.

at your bullshit. GTFO

Hammock Parties · 02-12-2018, 08:29 PM

Facts, not fiction, you turd.

And that's why his ass is GONE.

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-12-2018, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Facts, not fiction, you turd.

And that's why his ass is GONE.

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Geno taught me something, and that's not to get too high on guys like Mahomes.

The QB Whisperer speaks

**DaneMcCloud** · 02-12-2018, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Facts, not fiction, you turd.

And that's why his ass is GONE.

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

As for Mahomes, i would be shocked if a good QB ever came out of that school. The best TTU QB of all time (in NFL terms) is Billy Joe ****ing Tolliver.

One thing about Kizer: I think Notre Dame was so much of a shitshow, overrated program that he could have some untapped potential in a more stable environment. I like his talent the most out of all these guys.

The QB Whisperer has innate knowledge that can't be taught or learned.

Discuss Thrower · 02-12-2018, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Keep digging the hole, you sound like an idiot/

Four playoff appearances in 5 years.
Back to Back AFC West Champions

Yeah, we have not done shit in the playoffs, got it. That does not equal a over paid QB. In fact Alex has been decent in play off games.

He was not over paid.

Five total playoff games in five years. One win.

Who gives about appearances when there was zero progression?

They followed up the second worst blown league ever by missing the playoffs entirely.

Then, they followed up the supposed monkey-off-the-point turning point with a postseason win sealed up with the opening kickoff with three straight playoff losses -the last two of which were at Arrowhead.

Blame defense, blame drops, blame injuries... whatever. The common thread through all of this wonderful playoff success was Kansas City's fortunes were determined by who had the better QB on paper.

Surprise surprise, they lost each and every time they didn't have the superior QB compared to their opponent.

CoMoChief · 02-12-2018, 08:53 PM

Smith was a conservative QB, who needed a strong running game and defense to win ball games. He did his part for the most part by keeping his teams in positions to win by not losing the TO battle. He took care of the ball, which was huge let's not pretend that had a lot to do w/ the good record he had while he was here.

BUT...

If the defense wasn't creating TO's or weren't keeping teams out of the endzone and if he ever had to get into a track meet w/ an opponent he usually came up on the losing end (when his team allowed 24+ ppg). He's not the QB that can get you past the good teams in this league, and we all saw that. We all saw the offense go into stall fetal position mode too many times w/ Smith. At least w/ Mahomes, we'll know that hell throw past the chains and extend plays. With Mahomes, the range of field to cover just got a lot bigger for opposing defenses.

Hammock Parties · 02-12-2018, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Five total playoff games in five years. One win.

Who gives about appearances when there was zero progression?

Chiefs from 1989-1992/1995

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52 regular season wins, 1-4 in the playoffs

Chiefs from 2013-2017

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53 regular season wins, 1-4 in the playoffs

It was the DeBerg/Krieg/Bono bullshit all over again, only this time we paid big money to the QB and traded two second round picks for him.

Total ****ing waste of time and energy for all parties involved.

duncan_idaho · 02-12-2018, 09:46 PM

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Meh. We went from the literal worst team in the league to the playoffs in the first year of Reid/Smith. I know it doesn't appeal to anyone here, but the team needed to appeal to the crowd that just wanted to see a competent football team again. Shit was ****ing dire the last 2 or so years of the Pioli era.

They could have accomplished that with a lot of dudes, less expensive dudes. The team Andy Reid inherited was very talented, just needed competent coaching and organization and a non-fuqstiq QB who was being forced on the coach.

Instead of locking up Smith after 2013, they could have instead locked up Justin Houston and saved a good dose of money from extending him after his awesome 2014.

If there's anything our easily satisfied, low expectation fanbase has proven, it's that people will flock out for a team that scrapes into the playoffs and has no shot at playoff success.

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Originally Posted by Hoover

WTF?

Dude, good luck finding a QB that will suit up and be healthy for almost five years. Seriously. It's like you all forgot about the Haurd, Thigpen, Croyel, Brady Quinn, Orton, Cassel shit show years.

Just because those guys were garbage doesn't mean I'm going to be satisfied with a guy who steadily lived between "average" NFL starter and "bottom third" NFL starter.

Yay, he protected the football and didn't get hurt. Whoop de ****ing do.

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan

Tell me who was available in 2013 that could have provided equivalent play and been a steady placeholder until we found Mahomes.

I think you could have found a lot of guys who would have given KC 80-90 percent of what Alex Smith did for most of his tenure.

Shit, one of them was on the roster (Daniel). Smith didn't do anything you wouldn't expect a good backup QB to pull off.

Carson Palmer would have been a better option.

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Didn’t know trading up 17 spots for a QB is “lucky” good to know. Lol at his use of lucky. How did we get so lucky STaylor26? Sometimes you have to ignore the idiots man.

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What an awful take. It couldn’t have worked out any better for us and to chalk it up as getting “lucky” when we aggressively made a move to go get our guy is beyond ****ing reeruned.

My point with the "luck" factor is ... even finding a willing partner who would make the trade is a stroke of luck. Good evaluation, but the cookie had to crumble just right for KC to make that trade.

It could have worked out better in not completely wasting five years of time.

The Chiefs are in good shape now, but could be in even better shape had one of those second-round picks been turned into a good young player. Maybe it's a LB. Maybe it's a pass rusher. I don't care.

But give me some pairing of Palmer/Daniel/Moore/etc with those two picks instead of Alex Smith, as well as the saved salary from 2014+, and I'm certain I come out no worse and possibly better.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-12-2018, 10:52 PM

New Directive:

Practitioners of 'Smith Apologetics' are to be absolutely ****ing crucified for being too goddamned stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time.
Maybe you idiotic ****s are okay with losing yet ANOTHER half decade of time,
Maybe you feel that being better than bad is good,
Maybe you just wish to be a contrarian.
None of these are justifiable.
And using that ****head's tenure as a Chief to justify the Mahomes/draft timeline should get you kicked squarely in the vagina, so absolutely stupid a "point of view" it is.

If you meet the above criteria, kindly cease breathing the Earth's valuable oxygen.
And, **** yourself,
and **** yourself,
and **** yourself again!

Idiot.

BigCatDaddy · 02-12-2018, 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Claysexual

New Directive:

Practitioners of 'Smith Apologetics' are to be absolutely ****ing crucified for being too goddamned stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time.
Maybe you idiotic ****s are okay with losing yet ANOTHER half decade of time,
Maybe you feel that being better than bad is good,
Maybe you just wish to be a contrarian.
None of these are justifiable.
And using that ****head's tenure as a Chief to justify the Mahomes/draft timeline should get you kicked squarely in the vagina, so absolutely stupid a "point of view" it is.

If you meet the above criteria, kindly cease breathing the Earth's valuable oxygen.
And, **** yourself,
and **** yourself,
and **** yourself again!

Idiot.

One of the poetic and beautiful post I have read. I am getting a bit teary eyed, but that could just be becuase of the stench the Alexsuxuals left behind after shitting all over the place

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-12-2018, 11:54 PM

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One of the poetic and beautiful post I have read. I am getting a bit teary eyed, but that could just be becuase of the stench the Alexsuxuals left behind after shitting all over the place

Being a master of Smith-destroying prose is a taxing affair to say the least, but I will continue to do my part until we "Silkwood shower" these pathetic ****ers right.

Down.

The radioactive-material.

Drain.

Eleazar · 02-12-2018, 11:59 PM

Why are Welcher and his fluffers still obsessed with the Redskins’ QB?

Hammock Parties · 02-13-2018, 12:00 AM

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Why are Welcher and his fluffers still obsessed with the Redskins’ QB?

I'm not the one who keeps bumping this shit-sucking thread.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-13-2018, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar

Why are Welcher and his fluffers still obsessed with the Redskins’ QB?

For the same reason complete idiots are showing misplaced gratitude to the worthless piece of shit?

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CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	Smith was a conservative QB, who needed a strong running game and defense to win ball games. He did his part for the most part by keeping his teams in positions to win by not losing the TO battle. He took care of the ball, which was huge let's not pretend that had a lot to do w/ the good record he had while he was here. BUT... If the defense wasn't creating TO's or weren't keeping teams out of the endzone and if he ever had to get into a track meet w/ an opponent he usually came up on the losing end (when his team allowed 24+ ppg). He's not the QB that can get you past the good teams in this league, and we all saw that. We all saw the offense go into stall fetal position mode too many times w/ Smith. At least w/ Mahomes, we'll know that hell throw past the chains and extend plays. With Mahomes, the range of field to cover just got a lot bigger for opposing defenses. __________________
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Sweet Daddy Hate Unsparing Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	New Directive: Practitioners of 'Smith Apologetics' are to be absolutely **ing crucified for being too goddamned stupid to walk and chew gum at the same time. Maybe you idiotic s are okay with losing yet ANOTHER half decade of time, Maybe you feel that being better than bad is good, Maybe you just wish to be a contrarian. None of these are justifiable. And using that head's tenure as a Chief to justify the Mahomes/draft timeline should get you kicked squarely in the vagina, so absolutely stupid a "point of view" it is. If you meet the above criteria, kindly cease breathing the Earth's valuable oxygen. And, yourself, and yourself, and yourself again! Idiot. __________________ 1. Merciless, severe. 2. Given freely and generously. 100% refusal to overrate 20 year Head Coaches with ZERO ing rings as a Head Coach. CP's Official Professor of 'Dem Blues for 2019/2020!**
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