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Old 01-13-2020, 12:59 PM  
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Old 02-18-2020, 07:38 PM   #286
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Bit surprised at just how heated this is getting now. Hopefully it leads to Manfred getting the axe.
its because its the start of spring training and all the reporters have access to the players now. Its not surprising at all.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:25 PM   #287
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Oh, I think they should be ****ed with all year long..
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:41 PM   #288
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The same players that are complaining would have went a long with it has it been them. Let's be honest here, it's not like the Astros assembled the 25 players without morals to do this.
Not sure that matters at all. The Astros were caught cheating and deserve everything coming their way.
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Old 02-18-2020, 09:44 PM   #289
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Everyone involved should have been banned from baseball. The title should be vacated, and they should have a postseason ban for several years like would happen in other sports.

Man City in the Premier League was banned from European competition (basically, soccer's postseason) for two years just for financial reporting irregularities.
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:27 PM   #290
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I do think at some point the court of public opinion will pressure Manfred enough to strip them of their WS. It’s not dying down, only getting louder.
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Old 02-18-2020, 11:46 PM   #291
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I do think at some point the court of public opinion will pressure Manfred enough to strip them of their WS. It’s not dying down, only getting louder.
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Manfred works for the owners. There's no way they are going to start any sort of precedent that allows for stripping titles for "cheating" and the bottomless can of worms that would open.
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Old 02-19-2020, 12:01 AM   #292
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I do think at some point the court of public opinion will pressure Manfred enough to strip them of their WS. It’s not dying down, only getting louder.
The owners would present a vote of no confidence for Manfraud before that happens.
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Old 02-19-2020, 01:06 AM   #293
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Everyone involved should have been banned from baseball. The title should be vacated, and they should have a postseason ban for several years like would happen in other sports.

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(Goes out to the Internet to check on the Broncos' and Patriots' Super Bowls.)

I don't think it happens in other sports.
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It sucks, but there's going to be a surge in attendance at Astros game this season just so fans can boo them and see if any fights go down. The Astros cheating is going to be good for the MLB, at least in the short term.
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Man City in the Premier League was banned from European competition (basically, soccer's postseason) for two years just for financial reporting irregularities.
Just so you know that isn't feasible. There's no way Major League Baseball would ever do this. You'd effectively be killing baseball for three years in the country's seventh-largest TV market and basically telling 2.85 million paying fans (the number of fans who turned out to Minute Maid Park in 2019) that there's no reason to show up at the ballpark for three years. That's the sort of financial hit that the entirety of baseball, not just the Houston Astros, would not be able to recover from.
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Just so you know that isn't feasible. There's no way Major League Baseball would ever do this. You'd effectively be killing baseball for three years in the country's seventh-largest TV market and basically telling 2.85 million paying fans (the number of fans who turned out to Minute Maid Park in 2019) that there's no reason to show up at the ballpark for three years. That's the sort of financial hit that the entirety of baseball, not just the Houston Astros, would not be able to recover from.
To hell with them. Baseball recovered from the Black Sox, it recovered from the strike, it'll recover from one big market team being in the doldrums for a couple of years.
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Sadly, I agree with you. That's why the players and fans need to take matters into their own hands - because the owners won't adult...
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Sadly, I agree with you. That's why the players and fans need to take matters into their own hands - because the owners won't adult...
Bellinger/Judge/Trout spoke out pretty loudly yesterday.
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The owners would present a vote of no confidence for Manfraud before that happens.
I ****ing hate owners thinking when it comes to commissioners. Ruin our league, but we'll keep you around as long as profits go up. It's the only reason Manfred is still around. He wasn't good at all before this shit show, but this scandal might put him along the league worst. Pretty bad when you have people longing for bud Selig.
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