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Old 05-21-2020, 11:34 AM  
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Dak turns downs 5 year 175 million deal from Cowboys

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Old 05-21-2020, 01:13 PM   #61
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Mahomes
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and then....probably Dak Prescott, as far as the best QB's in football in 2020.
You are clearly forgetting Lock. Please re-read the last several months of the Donkey thread to refresh your memory on how elite his play has been.
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Old 05-21-2020, 01:13 PM   #62
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Are they going to do any better than him?

Prescott would get the contract he wants on the open market
Who would pay him that, right now?
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Old 05-21-2020, 01:15 PM   #63
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Who would pay him that, right now?
Right this second? Possibly the Colts.
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Old 05-21-2020, 01:15 PM   #64
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Old 05-21-2020, 01:15 PM   #65
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I don't give a **** what his "stats" were. He isn't winning a title, so I think they are dumb as **** for even offering that. Barely a top 10 QB...if that

AGAIN..Don't.....give....a...shit...how many "yards" he had.

His stats are misleading anyways. He plays terrible when things are going bad around him. In 8 losses in 2019 he had 8 TDs, and 7 INTs.
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Old 05-21-2020, 01:16 PM   #66
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Who would pay him that, right now?
If he hits the market in a year?

Saints
Raiders
Broncos
Tampa
Pittsburgh
Jacksonville
Chicago


There are a lot of teams with old QB's nearing retirement or bad QB situations that would line up to pay money.
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Also if you are going to bust on Prescott then list Carson Wentz you lose credibility, dude gets hurt walking down the hall.
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Old 05-21-2020, 01:19 PM   #68
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The Bengals weren't a terrible team before a couple years ago. They were on par with the Cowboys. He had AJ Green and only twice had over 4000 yards and once over 30 touchdowns. His best numbers are 4200 yards and 30 touchdowns and 20 INTs. Dak had 4900 passing yards, 30 touchdowns and 11 INTs. That's significantly better.

Marvin Lewis was his coach though.
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Old 05-21-2020, 01:26 PM   #69
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Dalton has never had even close to the year Dak had last year.

True, but I don't think that he ever had a comparable supporting cast around him either.
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Old 05-21-2020, 01:28 PM   #70
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Also if you are going to bust on Prescott then list Carson Wentz you lose credibility, dude gets hurt walking down the hall.
Sure, the only thing positive about Prescott is h3 can take a beating.

So put Teddy Bridgewater on there. Taysom Hill. Joe Burrow. Matt Moore. Anyone but Dak Prescott.
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Old 05-21-2020, 01:34 PM   #71
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As Chris Simms explained (kinda odd this is hitting the newswire now, as it was a comment he said in passing about 2 weeks ago) this issue isn't the total dollar figure. It's the structure of the contract. Dak wants the final year of his contract to rival what a new contract would look like 5 years from now. Hence the 45M+.
Yes and no.

Because if it was just the final year of the deal that he was irritated about, they'd end up settling in on a 4 year deal instead.

It's an AAV issue if you really boil it down. Prescott would take less in year 5 if the AAV (and up front money) was high enough. He's essentially saying that the $35 million AAV is too low.

And let's be honest here - is Dak likely to repeat a 300 yard/gm season with any regularity going forward? He's smart to try to leverage as much out of this last season as possible. He had an excellent platform season and he's going to do everything he can to capitalize on that. Afterall, he's played 4 years on a 3rd rounder's deal - he's been wildly underpaid for awhile now.

And the Cowboys have done nothing to set up a plan B behind him, so he's got Jerrah by the nesmonds here. He's not gonna get tossed over the side for Cam Newton.
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There's a lot of stupid going on there. First for the cowboys to even offer him that much and 2nd for Dak turning that down. The ****
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The Bengals weren't a terrible team before a couple years ago. They were on par with the Cowboys. He had AJ Green and only twice had over 4000 yards and once over 30 touchdowns. His best numbers are 4200 yards and 30 touchdowns and 20 INTs. Dak had 4900 passing yards, 30 touchdowns and 11 INTs. That's significantly better.
Dalton was never anything more than AJ Green's Jugs machine.

Dalton spends the last 3-4 years as a backup but/for Green inflating his numbers. And even at that, he wasn't all that good. Dalton is as JAG as they get.
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There's a lot of stupid going on there. First for the cowboys to even offer him that much and 2nd for Dak turning that down. The ****
Phillip Rivers just got $25 million from the Colts.

Yes, there are plenty of teams that would give him $35 million/yr for 5 years over his prime. Would it be a smart decision for them? Hard to say - really depends on their team. But if he were a free agent, he'd get something approaching that. Maybe $33 million, maybe $37 million, but there is enough cap space out there that somebody would give him that.
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