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**OnTheWarpath15** · 11:10 PM

Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this.

I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league.

What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years.

I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's.

Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe.

Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49

Roddy White - 6422/42

Reggie Wayne - 6234/36

Wes Welker - 6105/31

Calvin Johnson - 5872/49

Andre Johnson - 5703/35

Greg Jennings - 5539/46

Steve Smith - 5353/29

Marques Colston - 5202/40

Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36

Personally, I think that's impressive on its own.

Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons.

Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems.

It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game.

Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play.

After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play.

I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game.

Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league.

Dude deserved elite money.

Or, tl;dr - **** him.

Hammock Parties · 07-18-2012, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I don't give a shit about the last 20 years. When was the last time the Cowboys were relevant. All they do is go out and pay big name players. What has it gotten them?

A glorious Carl-like era of consistent winning with no postseason success.

That's better than the Chiefs in the last 5 years, though.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-18-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Something else I've learned - better yet, confirmed - in this thread:

This fanbase has no ****ing clue how the salary cap works.

What are you talking about chiefs are 16.4M under the cap and that's with Bowe's 9.5M.

Next year Key FA Albert and Dorsey.

2014 The cap is going up big time with the new TV deals.

lcarus · 07-18-2012, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

Even IF we were in the mythical "cap hell," we'd have most of our team locked up anyway.

It's not like we have a lot of glaring holes to fill.

Just one glaring hole. Long snapper

**DeezNutz** · 07-18-2012, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I don't give a shit about the last 20 years. When was the last time the Cowboys were relevant. All they do is go out and pay big name players. What has it gotten them?

Mythical cap hell? A playoff win within the last three years?

**DeezNutz** · 07-18-2012, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I don't give a shit about the last 20 years. When was the last time the Cowboys were relevant. All they do is go out and pay big name players. What has it gotten them?

And this isn't "going out" and signing a random FA. This is rewarding one of the most successful draft picks this organization has had in a very long time and one of the best WRs ever to play for the Chiefs.

Hammock Parties · 07-18-2012, 05:02 PM

Let's be honest - a big reason the Cowboys have been stuck in neutral?

The Patriot Way.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 07-18-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

Let's be honest - a big reason the Cowboys have been stuck in neutral?

The Patriot Way.

No Jerry Jones.

Titty Meat · 07-18-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

Let's be honest - a big reason the Cowboys have been stuck in neutral?

The Patriot Way.

No.

jd1020 · 07-18-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

And this isn't "going out" and signing a random FA. This is rewarding one of the most successful draft picks this organization has had in a very long time and one of the best WRs ever to play for the Chiefs.

Ok. So you pay him what he's worth. Just because he's one of the best WRs to ever play for the Chiefs doesn't mean you pay him what Fitzgerald got.

Hammock Parties · 07-18-2012, 05:04 PM

Jerry had the sense to fire that "by the book," overrated-since-the-Giants douche after 4 years and 0 playoff wins.

Can only hope Clark is as smart.

O.city · 07-18-2012, 05:04 PM

Who cares if he gets what Fitz got. Is he as good as Fitz? Maybe Maybe not.

But he's Fitz level money important to the success of our team, which is all that matters in a situation like this.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 07-18-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

What are you talking about chiefs are 16.4M under the cap and that's with Bowe's 9.5M.

Next year Key FA Albert and Dorsey.

2014 The cap is going up big time with the new TV deals.

You've apparently missed the "cap hell" debates in this thread.

Chief Faithful · 07-18-2012, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

Let's be honest - a big reason the Cowboys have been stuck in neutral?

The Patriot Way.

The Patiot Way left town 6 years ago.

Hammock Parties · 07-18-2012, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

The Patiot Way left town 6 years ago.

Indeed. It moved to Miami, where it wasted a few more years and several more millions of dollars and produced squat.

BigRock · 07-18-2012, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Toad King

That's just it, though: They aren't garbage time stats.

It doesn't matter. It had nothing to do with anything.

Here's what matters, which I've said repeatedly and at last check stands unchallenged: Bowe has been the league 5 years and has 1 great season to his credit. That's not an elite player.

Tell me why that's wrong. Anyone. Tell me why the only people in the world suggesting that Bowe is an elite player are Chiefs homers who constantly overrate their own players and/or people who want to drum up outrage at Scott Pioli.

07-17-2012, 11:45 AM
OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $4921115	How does Dwayne Bowe rank among the elite WR's? Sorry, didn't want this getting overlooked in the other thread. Then again, people will probably ignore it anyway - I know some of you will appreciate this. I keep seeing people say that Dwayne Bowe isn't an elite WR. So I decided to do some research to see how he matches up statistically over his 5 years in the league. What I found, is that statistically, Bowe is the 10th best WR of the last 5 years. I found 9 other WR's that either had better yardage totals, better TD numbers or both. He was 10th in yardage, tied for 6th in TD's. Here's the list. (Yardage/TD's) Bolded players have fewer or same TD's as Bowe. Larry Fitzgerald - 6480/49 Roddy White - 6422/42 Reggie Wayne - 6234/36 Wes Welker - 6105/31 Calvin Johnson - 5872/49 Andre Johnson - 5703/35 Greg Jennings - 5539/46 Steve Smith - 5353/29 Marques Colston - 5202/40 Dwayne Bowe - 4927/36 Personally, I think that's impressive on its own. Especially when you consider the only guy on this list who is younger is Megatron. I'd be curious to see how he matches up to the same players during each of their first 5 seasons. Anyway, when you compare Bowe's number's to the #1 yardage and #1 TD's - he's not nearly as far off as it seems. It comes down to 19.41 yard a game, and .16 TD's per game. Factor in that Bowe is missing something the other 9 have - solid QB play. After looking at this, its hard for me to say Dwayne Bowe is NOT an elite WR, considering how his numbers match up to the "elite" and never having the benefit of decent QB play. I'm pretty confident in saying that with solid QB play, Bowe would easily make up 19.41 yards and .16 TD's a game. Like him or not, he's an elite WR - and has shown it over his 5 years in the league. Dude deserved elite money. Or, tl;dr - **** him. Last edited by OnTheWarpath15; 07-17-2012 at 11:10 PM..
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