More Police nonsense. Father arrested for Speaking Against Sexually Explicit Book

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

And how is it OK that parents are required to accept controversial information?

Because some kids have already been exposed to it so it doesn't matter!

[blaise]

There's thousands of books the teacher could choose. I think it's kind of creepy that this one would assign one with that kind of passage.

[BigMeatballDave]

I don't have a problem with him being removed.

It's ridiculous that he was charged with a crime, though.

[Just Passin' By]

Originally Posted by BCD

I don't have a problem with him being removed.

It's ridiculous that he was charged with a crime, though.

He was asking for it, almost literally:

Gilford’s acting Police Chief, Lt. James Leach, said he had no choice but to make the arrest. “There were repeated attempts to ask him to stop,” Lt. Leach said. “I asked him to leave. He refused. He said, ‘arrest me or I’m not going to’…so I did.”

Baer was released on $700.00 personal recognizance, and is due in court in June.

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/05/0...h-high-school/

I'm with the guy in saying that the school policy was wrong, and the officer didn't have to actually go through with the arrest, but the guy knew that arrest might be coming.

[Valiant]

Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

He was asking for it, almost literally:



http://boston.cbslocal.com/2014/05/0...h-high-school/

I'm with the guy in saying that the school policy was wrong, and the officer didn't have to actually go through with the arrest, but the guy knew that arrest might be coming.

See this is reasonable recourse.

He could of disagreed with the topic. I still state it was listed and it was his duty to look over it. His antics and outburst caused this.

Then my stance on what parents allow their kids to listen to/watch is way worse than this book.

How many of read Romeo and Juiliet, that is a very sexual book. Especially for the older crowd. It is tame to what kids listen/watch now.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I don't have a problem with the content of that page. Our society has incredibly ****ed up views regarding sex and violence. Lord of the Flies, which includes children murdering other children, is far more graphic and heinous than almost any non-rape scene imaginable.

Now, that's not to say that LotF is bannable, because it's not.

The teacher failed, not in choosing some salacious, but by choosing a text from an author known for vacuous, lowest-common-denominator plots.

I have some personal experience with a similar situation. I've had a student who refused to read Choke because he was, in his words, a Christian and it offended him. What I found interesting was that this same student had no issues reading a novel wherein a child describes the graphic murder of three children.

I've also had a student who refused to read "Going to Meet the Man" by James Baldwin. The ignorance of the student bothered me greatly because she didn't consider why there might be value in reading something that makes you uncomfortable because it just may challenge your values and help you better understand yourself and others.

[Garcia Bronco]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The ignorance of the student bothered me greatly because she didn't consider why there might be value in reading something that makes you uncomfortable because it just may challenge your values and help you better understand yourself and others.

Great point about reading ideas you don't like.

[DaveNull]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I've had a student who refused to read Choke because he was, in his words, a Christian and it offended him.

His loss. Choke was great fun.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I don't have a problem with the content of that page. Our society has incredibly ****ed up views regarding sex and violence. Lord of the Flies, which includes children murdering other children, is far more graphic and heinous than almost any non-rape scene imaginable.

Now, that's not to say that LotF is bannable, because it's not.

The teacher failed, not in choosing some salacious, but by choosing a text from an author known for vacuous, lowest-common-denominator plots.

I have some personal experience with a similar situation. I've had a student who refused to read Choke because he was, in his words, a Christian and it offended him. What I found interesting was that this same student had no issues reading a novel wherein a child describes the graphic murder of three children.

I've also had a student who refused to read "Going to Meet the Man" by James Baldwin. The ignorance of the student bothered me greatly because she didn't consider why there might be value in reading something that makes you uncomfortable because it just may challenge your values and help you better understand yourself and others.

We had a student who wanted to have a technology class replaced with something else because her religion "didn't believe in technology." I assured her that it existed.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I have some personal experience with a similar situation. I've had a student who refused to read Choke because he was, in his words, a Christian and it offended him. What I found interesting was that this same student had no issues reading a novel wherein a child describes the graphic murder of three children.

I've also had a student who refused to read "Going to Meet the Man" by James Baldwin. The ignorance of the student bothered me greatly because she didn't consider why there might be value in reading something that makes you uncomfortable because it just may challenge your values and help you better understand yourself and others.

I agree wholeheartedly on the above....there are books that were assigned to my daughter that I found personally offensive, but still chose to let her read them because I don't want her to live in a bubble. She is headed off to college next year and the last thing I want her to be is naïve when it comes to reading material.

We only opted out on one book her whole HS career, and the wife & I talked about that one for several days before making that decision. And it was more on a personal level about whether she was emotionally/mentally prepared to understand the message in the book.

My biggest concerns when it comes to the classroom is less the material being read, and more the presenter. Teachers with agendas, while a very small percentage, are still troublesome to me.

[Jimmya]

93-year-old Texas woman fatally shot by police
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HEARNE, Texas (AP) — A 93-year-old Central Texas woman was fatally shot at her home by a police officer answering a call about a person with a gun, authorities said.

Pearlie Golden, a longtime resident of Hearne who was affectionately known to her neighbors as Ms. Sully, was shot Tuesday night, Robertson County District Attorney Coty Siegert said.

"She did have a gun. ... Now, what she was doing with it, that is the ultimate question," said Siegert.

The investigation is being handled by the Texas Rangers. Once the investigation is complete, the case will be presented to a grand jury, Siegert said.

City attorney Bryan Russ Jr. said the officer has been put on paid administrative leave as is standard protocol when an officer is involved in a shooting. "What we believe is that she was instructed to drop the weapon, that is my understanding," Russ said.

He could not comment any further because the investigation is ongoing.

Hearne is a town of about 4,500 people that's about 140 miles south of Dallas.

[DaveNull]

Oh come on....what was the book you opted out of?

[LoneWolf]

Originally Posted by DaveNull

Oh come on....what was the book you opted out of?

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. There is a large snake which is a direct representation of a penis and all the sexual tension between Harry and Hermione could be confusing to young readers.

[Mosbonian]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. There is a large snake which is a direct representation of a penis and all the sexual tension between Harry and Hermione could be confusing to young readers.

This one made me chuckle....

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by DaveNull

Oh come on....what was the book you opted out of?

The Bible.