Mahomes vs Mayfield

[ModSocks]

What a fun game to watch. We'll see the NFL version this season. And just think, John Dorsey drafted both of them.



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[Willie Lanier]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Mayfield is throwing to wide-open guys while Mahomes' targets tend to have guys draped all over them.

Yeah, and add to the argument Mahomes basically had that albatross of a defense that he had to carry...

At this point it's redundant

[CoMoChief]

2:29min mark where Mahomes launches a 52yd bomb off of his back foot with a DT right up his ass is a BEAUTIFUL pass. Dropped it right in the bread basket of his WR.

That would have been a 40yd duck >> interception had that been Alex Smith throwing the ball. And really the more I think about it, Smith is too conservative to even think about making that pass, probably holds onto the ball too long, gives up and takes the sack.

The major difference between Mahomes and Smith will be no more of the 4-5yd dump offs and passes into the flats on 3rd n long. Mahomes is competitive, comes from a pass happy scoring offense at TTU, the guy wants to put his arm to test and wants to score each time he goes out there. Alex Smith just wants to put the team in positions to win, and that's fine, in large part it worked. But there are those QB who elevate those around them. With Smith, it was the other way around.

Mahomes has the luxury of having some pretty darn good weapons across the board. Still pissed KC didn't draft Christian Kirk, would've made the perfect slot guy. But Hill/Watkins/Kelce/Hunt, and with Conley coming back, is def nothing to complain about. Hopefully if Conley gets back 100% healthy he can better contribute w/ Mahomes giving him the ball. But I also think the Chiefs overpaid for Watkins perhaps because they desperately needed a #2WR and maybe don't think Conley will be back to pre-inj form? Either way more weapons the better.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

2:29min mark where Mahomes launches a 52yd bomb off of his back foot with a DT right up his ass is a BEAUTIFUL pass. Dropped it right in the bread basket of his WR.

That would have been a 40yd duck >> interception had that been Alex Smith throwing the ball. And really the more I think about it, Smith is too conservative to even think about making that pass, probably holds onto the ball too long, gives up and takes the sack.

The major difference between Mahomes and Smith will be no more of the 4-5yd dump offs and passes into the flats on 3rd n long. Mahomes is competitive, comes from a pass happy scoring offense at TTU, the guy wants to put his arm to test and wants to score each time he goes out there. Alex Smith just wants to put the team in positions to win, and that's fine, in large part it worked. But there are those QB who elevate those around them. With Smith, it was the other way around.

Mahomes has the luxury of having some pretty darn good weapons across the board. Still pissed KC didn't draft Christian Kirk, would've made the perfect slot guy. But Hill/Watkins/Kelce/Hunt, and with Conley coming back, is def nothing to complain about. Hopefully if Conley gets back 100% healthy he can better contribute w/ Mahomes giving him the ball. But I also think the Chiefs overpaid for Watkins perhaps because they desperately needed a #2WR and maybe don't think Conley will be back to pre-inj form? Either way more weapons the better.

who is this smith person you speak of? what position does he play?

[Trivers]

That was a great game to watch.

I remember, as a OU fan, that OU was a better team....BUT Mahomes kept TT in the game.

Never felt assured of the win until the clock read 00:00.

[Nickhead]

Originally Posted by Trivers

That was a great game to watch.

I remember, as a OU fan, that OU was a better team....BUT Mahomes kept TT in the game.

Never felt assured of the win until the clock read 00:00.

you are not wrong in this assessment as i watched this game for the first time recently. it was actually a quite boring game the first half. was thinking to myself that 'is this the game everyone kept talking about?' but man, the second half...

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I think Dorsey should’ve gone with Barkley at 1, Chubb at 4, and traded back into the late first for Lamar Jackson. I’d take those 3 over Ward and Mayfield any day.

Cleveland has chosen that strategy the past many years. Who knows, it may amount to some good now that they've added a team with some halfway decent pieces to work with like Miles Garrett, but as far as passing on all the QBs like they did last year, that was simply not in the cards for Dorsey.

[Dunerdr]

Mahomes is more talented but they're one in the same as far as sheer will to win goes. I'm a non OU fan in the sooner state, and as badly as I don't want to admit it mayfields a baller. He definately had more talent on the field around him in this game though.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by carcosa

Mahomes will ****ing pwn his ass!!!

Yep. Just like he did when they both were at Texas Tech.

[Iczer]

Originally Posted by Dunerdr

Mahomes is more talented but they're one in the same as far as sheer will to win goes. I'm a non OU fan in the sooner state, and as badly as I don't want to admit it mayfields a baller. He definately had more talent on the field around him in this game though.

That's the thing that stuck out to me. All the times Mayfield had a clean pocket to throw to and shit Mixon had 263 rushing hards.

Then look at Mahomes, most of the time I saw his OL break down quickly. Plus Mahomes led his team in rushing too lol.

Mahomes single handily kept that game close, its crazy.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Jesus there was some awful defense in that game though...I mean like, "**** I hate this team if I were a fan" bad...

[St. Patty's Fire]

Originally Posted by carcosa

Mahomes will ****ing pwn his ass!!!

I totally egregious, popo

[Luke Atamadong]

Originally Posted by Iczer

That's the thing that stuck out to me. All the times Mayfield had a clean pocket to throw to and shit Mixon had 263 rushing hards.

Then look at Mahomes, most of the time I saw his OL break down quickly. Plus Mahomes led his team in rushing too lol.

Mahomes single handily kept that game close, its crazy.

I can''t believe this guy is on OUR team. Still seems surreal.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I think Dorsey should’ve gone with Barkley at 1, Chubb at 4, and traded back into the late first for Lamar Jackson. I’d take those 3 over Ward and Mayfield any day.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by vailpass

I’d take Lamar Jackson over Case ****ing Keenum

[Naptown Chief]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I think Dorsey should’ve gone with Barkley at 1, Chubb at 4, and traded back into the late first for Lamar Jackson. I’d take those 3 over Ward and Mayfield any day.

I actually said something similar in the draft thread before the draft started. I'd like to have seen Cleveland trade #1 to the Pats(who did want Mayfield) for their 2 firsts and 2 seconds. Trade 4 to Buffalo for their two firsts and I think they had 2 seconds...

They'd have had 4 1st round picks, 7 second round picks, and what, 2-3 3rd round picks? They could have built damn near an entire roster in one off-season. Then again, I'm not a GM and I may have proposed the worst take all year.