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Old 10-19-2020, 06:00 PM  
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What's up with Mecole Hardman?
Pringle was getting all the snaps down the stretch. Is he in the doghouse? (I'm only partially asking because I started him in fantasy thinking he'd get some looks with Watkins out)

Seems like he's regressed a lot this season, unfortunately...
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Old 10-20-2020, 04:51 PM   #121
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I rather give Pringle a start over Hardman and see what happens.
Agreed.

I've seen enough of Hardmen tbh.
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Old 10-20-2020, 04:54 PM   #122
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Agreed.

I've seen enough of Hardmen tbh.
I doubt they do. Seems like a move you make in the off season at OTAs. Hardman is still learning but it just feels like Pringle may be better.
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Old 10-20-2020, 05:01 PM   #123
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Hardman sucks. He's a one trick pony. Easily replaceable. Horrible returner as well.

I know that's hard for some of you to accept but it's reality.
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Old 10-20-2020, 05:06 PM   #124
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I rather give Pringle a start over Hardman and see what happens.
Not gonna happen. They don't play the same role in the offense.
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Old 10-20-2020, 05:07 PM   #125
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Hardman sucks. He's a one trick pony. Easily replaceable. Horrible returner as well.

I know that's hard for some of you to accept but it's reality.
I can accept it. He's fast but not some bad ass. He didn't do shit in the playoffs nor the SB.
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Old 10-20-2020, 05:07 PM   #126
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Hardman sucks. He's a one trick pony. Easily replaceable. Horrible returner as well.

I know that's hard for some of you to accept but it's reality.
The reality is the NFL has this thing called personnel packages.
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Old 10-20-2020, 05:09 PM   #127
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I can accept it. He's fast but not some bad ass. He didn't do shit in the playoffs nor the SB.


He had a 58-yard return when the Chiefs were down 24-0 to the Texans. The Chiefs scored on that drive and ended up scoring 41 points.

Look, Hardman has a lot of warts. He needs to get better.

But you guys live in a fantasy world where you just ignore the things you don't want to see.
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Old 10-20-2020, 05:12 PM   #128
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The reality is the NFL has this thing called personnel packages.
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The reality is the NFL has this thing called personnel packages.
Sure but I don't think a 2nd round WR should need to be in specific packages or be only able to replace one player in an offense. I can understand him not being as physical or being able to block like Watkins. That's fine. But the fact that he still seems to only be able to run a few routes and jet sweeps packages sucks. I'm happy that he's liable to make big plays every once in a while but I'd trade that in all day for consistency and for him to be a true threat in the offense.
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What were the chances Red Dawg, Jake F, and PA Chiefs fan post back to back to back with all really bad takes?
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What were the chances Red Dawg, Jake F, and PA Chiefs fan post back to back to back with all really bad takes?
Apparently 100%.
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Sure but I don't think a 2nd round WR should need to be in specific packages or be only able to replace one player in an offense. I can understand him not being as physical or being able to block like Watkins. That's fine. But the fact that he still seems to only be able to run a few routes and jet sweeps packages sucks. I'm happy that he's liable to make big plays every once in a while but I'd trade that in all day for consistency and for him to be a true threat in the offense.
That's just the thing.

The number of snaps Hardman is getting is DIRECTLY related to running the ball.

Since nobody seems to want to accept this fact, here's some food for thought.

Week 1 - Texans - 32 passes, 34 rushes
Hardman - 19 total snaps, 11 on pass plays, 8 on run plays
Robinson - 33 total snaps, 17 on pass plays, 16 on run plays

Week 2 - Chargers - 47 passes, 22 rushes
Hardman - 46 total snaps, 32 on pass plays, 14 on run plays
Robinson - 43 total snaps, 33 on pass plays, 10 on run plays

Week 3 - Ravens - 42 passes, 31 rushes
Hardman - 27 total snaps, 20 on pass plays, 8 on run plays
Robinson - 41 total snaps, 24 on pass plays, 17 on run plays

Week 4 - Patriots - 29 passes, 25 rushes
Hardman - 25 total snaps, 15 on pass plays, 10 on run plays
Robinson - 23 total snaps, 15 on pass plays, 8 on run plays

Week 5 - Raiders - 43 passes, 20 rushes
Hardman - 47 total snaps, 33 on pass plays, 14 on run plays
Robinson - 47 total snaps, 34 on pass plays, 13 on run plays

Week 6 - Buffalo - 27 passes, 46 rushes
Hardman - 29 total snaps, 19 on pass plays, 10 on run plays
Robinson - 69 total snaps, 27 on pass plays, 42 on run plays
(incidentally Robinson had more snaps than Tyreek Hill against the Bills, which further proves my point)

The stats are pretty freaking clear. I'm 100% correct about this.
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That's just the thing.

The number of snaps Hardman is getting is DIRECTLY related to running the ball.

Since nobody seems to want to accept this fact, here's some food for thought.

Week 1 - Texans - 32 passes, 34 rushes
Hardman - 19 total snaps, 11 on pass plays, 8 on run plays
Robinson - 33 total snaps, 17 on pass plays, 16 on run plays

Week 2 - Chargers - 47 passes, 22 rushes
Hardman - 46 total snaps, 32 on pass plays, 14 on run plays
Robinson - 43 total snaps, 33 on pass plays, 10 on run plays

Week 3 - Ravens - 42 passes, 31 rushes
Hardman - 27 total snaps, 20 on pass plays, 8 on run plays
Robinson - 41 total snaps, 24 on pass plays, 17 on run plays

Week 4 - Patriots - 29 passes, 25 rushes
Hardman - 25 total snaps, 15 on pass plays, 10 on run plays
Robinson - 23 total snaps, 15 on pass plays, 8 on run plays

Week 5 - Raiders - 43 passes, 20 rushes
Hardman - 47 total snaps, 33 on pass plays, 14 on run plays
Robinson - 47 total snaps, 34 on pass plays, 13 on run plays

Week 6 - Buffalo - 27 passes, 46 rushes
Hardman - 29 total snaps, 19 on pass plays, 10 on run plays
Robinson - 69 total snaps, 27 on pass plays, 42 on run plays
(incidentally Robinson had more snaps than Tyreek Hill against the Bills, which further proves my point)

The stats are pretty freaking clear. I'm 100% correct about this.
So...Robinson has more snaps even when just accounting just pass snaps? I don't get how this helps your point.
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So...Robinson has more snaps even when just accounting just pass snaps? I don't get how this helps your point.
Robinson gets more snaps when we run the ball more. It's pretty simple to see.
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