Chiefs Dwayne Bowe reaches agreement with Chiefs? - Page 19

Mr. Laz · 08-10-2012, 03:57 PM

Source: Dwayne Bowe reaches agreement with Chiefs
Holdout seen flying to Kansas City Friday

UPDATED 4:14 PM CDT Aug 10, 2012

KANSAS CITY, Mo. -
Holdout wide receiver Dwayne Bowe has reached agreement with the Kansas City Chiefs over his contract dispute, a source has told KMBC 9 News.

Bowe, who has missed all of the team's training camp, was spotted flying to Kansas City on Friday afternoon.

Bowe, 27, had been holding out while trying to get a long-term contract. He did not sign one before the league deadline for a long-term deal expired last month.

The Chiefs named him their nonexclusive franchise player last spring, which meant the team would have to offer him a one-year contract that would make him one of the five highest-paid players in the league. He could negotiate with other teams, but the Chiefs would have the right to match the offer or get two first-round draft picks as compensation.

The Chiefs have not yet confirmed that Bowe has reached an agreement with them.

The team plays its first preseason game of the year against the Arizona Cardinals Friday night at Arrowhead Stadium.

Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/sports/Source-Dw...#ixzz23BPCMkfo

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-11-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Strongside

Push believe it or not...He has a smallish front yard.

HIS BACKYARD IS FULL OF DROPPED PASSES!!1!

**DeezNutz** · 08-11-2012, 08:55 PM

When doves cry...

**DeezNutz** · 08-11-2012, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

It's funny how when it comes to a player's responsibility to a team, suddenly everyone's "ethics" and "character" but when it comes to a team's responsibility to a player "It's a business". I don't know what went on during Bowe's contract negotiations, but I do know that Bowe is not violating any contract by deciding to train on his own instead of come to camp. The team wouldn't do anything for Bowe beyond what his contract requires. Why should he?

80/20. That's the nature of things.

**BossChief** · 08-11-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Maybe so. It seems like most injuries (after hold-outs) are the result of poor conditioning, not lack of contact, so this is something that Bowe can control on his own right now to a certain extent.

So, if he gets hurt...it's his own fault.

Noted.

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I think this will be his last year. Dude turns 29 next year. Not exactly ancient, but getting older for a "long-term" deal.

One more tag.

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Nah, I won't strut.

Walking around all cocky like because the Chiefs suck isn't cool.

Haha

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Bowe isn't doing anything wrong. The CBA allows him to sit at home without penalty until week one.

funny that "Bowe is doing nothing wrong"

As if you dumbshits know any of the details here.

Just whining to whine.

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Originally Posted by Brock

Oh, okay. Vincent Jackson can hold out until week 10 and get paid, but Bowe can't hold out of training camp and do better than that.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-11-2012, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

funny that "Bowe is doing nothing wrong"

As if you dumbshits know any of the details here.

Just whining to whine.

So, what is he doing wrong?

**BossChief** · 08-11-2012, 10:29 PM

To the Vincent Jackson comparison...VJ wasted that whole year of his career with that shit.

He got franchised the next year, reported right away and had a full year before getting a 55 million dollar contract with only 26 million guaranteed.

**BossChief** · 08-11-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

So, what is he doing wrong?

It's all opinion based on speculation right now.

Pioli could be offering too little or Bowe could be asking for too much.

Without being able to say "I can't believe Pioli isn't paying X" or "I can't believe Bowe wants more than Y" it's crazy to assign blame.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-11-2012, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

To the Vincent Jackson comparison...VJ wasted that whole year of his career with that shit.

He got franchised the next year, reported right away and had a full year before getting a 55 million dollar contract with only 26 million guaranteed.

Is VJ better than Bowe?

Bowe is about 2 yrs younger.

VJs best season he only caught 68.

With a real QB.

**BigMeatballDave** · 08-11-2012, 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BossChief

It's all opinion based on speculation right now.

Pioli could be offering too little or Bowe could be asking for too much.

Without being able to say "I can't believe Pioli isn't paying X" or "I can't believe Bowe wants more than Y" it's crazy to assign blame.

Who cares about any of that?

This is about Bowe not being in camp.

Bowe is not violating any rules.

And it will not hurt him in the future.

**DeezNutz** · 08-11-2012, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

So, if he gets hurt...it's his own fault.

Noted.

One more tag.

Don't be reductive, as the first isn't what I said. "Most." I'm thinking hamstring, things like this. And, yes, this would seem to be preventable with proper conditioning, but we'll have to see.

Won't tag and then accept nothing unless we're making a SB run. Which won't be the case without a franchise QB, and Will isn't this QB.

otherstar · 08-11-2012, 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Who cares about any of that?

This is about Bowe not being in camp.

Bowe is not violating any rules.

And it will not hurt him in the future.

This.

Tony Gonzalez did the same thing in 2002 and had a fine year. Source (I remember it happening, but wanted the dates/details that I didn't remember).

It's happened before in the NFL, for the Chiefs, and it'll happen again. Not a big deal.

Just Passin' By · 08-11-2012, 11:42 PM

If he waits to sign until it's too late for him to play in game 2 of the exhibition season, but early enough to prepare for the 3rd game, he'll have timed it just right. The 3 day rule about no pads will let him get in before that second game is played, if he wants.

philfree · 08-12-2012, 08:38 PM

A different take on Bowe.
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With Detroit Lions defensive end Cliff Avril signing his $10.605 million franchise tender on Sunday, Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Dwayne Bowe remains as the only unsigned franchise player. Bowe reportedly plans to return to the Chiefs before their first regular season game on September 9th. His missing training camp has been portrayed as a protest for not getting a long-term deal as a franchise player in which he’s taking advantage of the Chiefs’ inability to fine him $30,000 for each day he’s not there since Bowe isn’t under contract.

However, there could more to Bowe’s absence. Contrary to popular belief and what is being widely reported, Bowe is not restricted to playing for just his $9.515 million franchise tender with the Chiefs this season. He can only play for the Chiefs on a one-year deal since the deadline for franchise players signing long-term contracts has passed, but Bowe is still allowed to negotiate his one-year salary and other conditions relating to his franchise player status.
Bowe should be attempting to negotiate with the Chiefs a larger salary than his franchise tender or a clause which prevents them from making him a franchise or transition player after this season (i.e.; a prohibition clause). If the Chiefs were willing to give Bowe additional compensation without a prohibition clause, his increased compensation would make it financially more difficult for them to franchise him next year.

For example, assuming the Chiefs paid Bowe a $12.272 million salary this season—which is what Bowe’s franchise number would have been if the new Collective Bargaining Agreement had not changed how non-exclusive franchise numbers are calculated—he would still effectively have a prohibition clause. Since his franchise tender would be $14.726 million next year, he would probably hit the free agent market, like Vincent Jackson did this year when the San Diego Chargers didn’t franchise him for a second time at $13.709 million.

Dwayne Bowe has yet to report to Chiefs training camp.

The Chiefs’ salary cap situation won’t prevent them from paying Bowe more than his franchise tender because they have close to $15 million of cap room, but they may not want to set such a precedent around the NFL. Bowe playing under his actual franchise tender this season may not have the same effect as him getting additional compensation because his $11.418 million tender next year is less than the $11.424 million tender Jackson played under as the Chargers’ franchise player in 2011.

It shouldn’t be as difficult for Bowe to get a prohibition clause because the same issues of precedent don’t exist with them. The Seattle Seahawks gave Pro Bowl running back Shaun Alexander one when he was their franchise player in 2005. Jeff Backus and Nate Clements got prohibition clauses in 2006 when they were respectively franchised by the Detroit Lions and Buffalo Bills.

The Chiefs haven’t given a prohibition clause to a franchise player, but Scott Pioli, their general manager, is very familiar them. As a front office executive with the New England Patriots in 2007, Pioli gave franchise player Asante Samuel a prohibition clause that was triggered by him having at least 60% playtime on defense or the Patriots winning at least 12 games. Lance Briggs and Albert Haynesworth also had clauses similar to Samuel’s when they were franchised in 2007 and 2008 by the Chicago Bears and Tennessee Titans, respectively.

If Pioli gave Bowe a prohibition clause, it might contain the same playtime requirement as Samuel’s because top cornerbacks and wide receivers usually have equivalent playtime. Nine wins or making the playoffs would be a more appropriate alternative threshold for Bowe’s clause since the Chiefs don’t appear to be a Super Bowl caliber club like the 2007 Patriots were.

Getting either one of these concessions from the Chiefs could be the difference between Bowe playing under another franchise tag and having the opportunity to get a long-term deal at his true market value next year. In the open market, he could command a deal similar to the five-year, $55,555,555 contract ($26 million guaranteed and $36 million in the first three years) Jackson signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers once free agency began. It’s never happened before, but it would be interesting to know whether any franchise player places enough value on having a prohibition clause that he would take a one-year salary that’s less than his franchise tender in order to get one.

If Bowe’s absence from the Chiefs isn’t related to a negotiating purpose, then he should probably sign his franchise tender as soon as possible. The Chiefs have a different offensive philosophy under new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, so the more time Bowe has to get acclimated to the new scheme, the better it is for him and the Chiefs.

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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	Dwayne Bowe reaches agreement with Chiefs? Source: Dwayne Bowe reaches agreement with Chiefs Holdout seen flying to Kansas City Friday UPDATED 4:14 PM CDT Aug 10, 2012 KANSAS CITY, Mo. - Holdout wide receiver Dwayne Bowe has reached agreement with the Kansas City Chiefs over his contract dispute, a source has told KMBC 9 News. Bowe, who has missed all of the team's training camp, was spotted flying to Kansas City on Friday afternoon. Bowe, 27, had been holding out while trying to get a long-term contract. He did not sign one before the league deadline for a long-term deal expired last month. The Chiefs named him their nonexclusive franchise player last spring, which meant the team would have to offer him a one-year contract that would make him one of the five highest-paid players in the league. He could negotiate with other teams, but the Chiefs would have the right to match the offer or get two first-round draft picks as compensation. The Chiefs have not yet confirmed that Bowe has reached an agreement with them. The team plays its first preseason game of the year against the Arizona Cardinals Friday night at Arrowhead Stadium. Read more: http://www.kmbc.com/sports/Source-Dw...#ixzz23BPCMkfo
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08-12-2012, 08:38 PM	#283
philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $1546198	A different take on Bowe. ------ With Detroit Lions defensive end Cliff Avril signing his $10.605 million franchise tender on Sunday, Kansas City Chiefs wide receiver Dwayne Bowe remains as the only unsigned franchise player. Bowe reportedly plans to return to the Chiefs before their first regular season game on September 9th. His missing training camp has been portrayed as a protest for not getting a long-term deal as a franchise player in which he’s taking advantage of the Chiefs’ inability to fine him $30,000 for each day he’s not there since Bowe isn’t under contract. However, there could more to Bowe’s absence. Contrary to popular belief and what is being widely reported, Bowe is not restricted to playing for just his $9.515 million franchise tender with the Chiefs this season. He can only play for the Chiefs on a one-year deal since the deadline for franchise players signing long-term contracts has passed, but Bowe is still allowed to negotiate his one-year salary and other conditions relating to his franchise player status. Bowe should be attempting to negotiate with the Chiefs a larger salary than his franchise tender or a clause which prevents them from making him a franchise or transition player after this season (i.e.; a prohibition clause). If the Chiefs were willing to give Bowe additional compensation without a prohibition clause, his increased compensation would make it financially more difficult for them to franchise him next year. For example, assuming the Chiefs paid Bowe a $12.272 million salary this season—which is what Bowe’s franchise number would have been if the new Collective Bargaining Agreement had not changed how non-exclusive franchise numbers are calculated—he would still effectively have a prohibition clause. Since his franchise tender would be $14.726 million next year, he would probably hit the free agent market, like Vincent Jackson did this year when the San Diego Chargers didn’t franchise him for a second time at $13.709 million. Dwayne Bowe has yet to report to Chiefs training camp. The Chiefs’ salary cap situation won’t prevent them from paying Bowe more than his franchise tender because they have close to $15 million of cap room, but they may not want to set such a precedent around the NFL. Bowe playing under his actual franchise tender this season may not have the same effect as him getting additional compensation because his $11.418 million tender next year is less than the $11.424 million tender Jackson played under as the Chargers’ franchise player in 2011. It shouldn’t be as difficult for Bowe to get a prohibition clause because the same issues of precedent don’t exist with them. The Seattle Seahawks gave Pro Bowl running back Shaun Alexander one when he was their franchise player in 2005. Jeff Backus and Nate Clements got prohibition clauses in 2006 when they were respectively franchised by the Detroit Lions and Buffalo Bills. The Chiefs haven’t given a prohibition clause to a franchise player, but Scott Pioli, their general manager, is very familiar them. As a front office executive with the New England Patriots in 2007, Pioli gave franchise player Asante Samuel a prohibition clause that was triggered by him having at least 60% playtime on defense or the Patriots winning at least 12 games. Lance Briggs and Albert Haynesworth also had clauses similar to Samuel’s when they were franchised in 2007 and 2008 by the Chicago Bears and Tennessee Titans, respectively. If Pioli gave Bowe a prohibition clause, it might contain the same playtime requirement as Samuel’s because top cornerbacks and wide receivers usually have equivalent playtime. Nine wins or making the playoffs would be a more appropriate alternative threshold for Bowe’s clause since the Chiefs don’t appear to be a Super Bowl caliber club like the 2007 Patriots were. Getting either one of these concessions from the Chiefs could be the difference between Bowe playing under another franchise tag and having the opportunity to get a long-term deal at his true market value next year. In the open market, he could command a deal similar to the five-year, $55,555,555 contract ($26 million guaranteed and $36 million in the first three years) Jackson signed with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers once free agency began. It’s never happened before, but it would be interesting to know whether any franchise player places enough value on having a prohibition clause that he would take a one-year salary that’s less than his franchise tender in order to get one. If Bowe’s absence from the Chiefs isn’t related to a negotiating purpose, then he should probably sign his franchise tender as soon as possible. The Chiefs have a different offensive philosophy under new offensive coordinator Brian Daboll, so the more time Bowe has to get acclimated to the new scheme, the better it is for him and the Chiefs. Follow me on Twitter: @corryjoel Joel Corry is a former sports agent who helped found Premier Sports & Entertainment, a sports management firm that represents professional athletes and coaches. Prior to his tenure at Premier, Joel worked for Management Plus Enterprises, which represented Shaquille O'Neal, Hakeem Olajuwon and Ronnie Lott. You can email Joel at jccorry@gmail.com __________________ [/SIGPIC]
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