Chiefs ***The Official HERM MUST BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY Reasoning and Statistics Repository*** - Page 2

**Buehler445** · 08:17 AM

Much like the offseason moves repository htis used to do, I think we should use this as the official listing of all the reasons Herm should be fired immediately. Feel free to contribute your thoughts.

I robbed some of the stuff in Rainman's Record thread here

General Ineptitude
2-14 in 2008
4-12 in 2007
2-23 in last 25 games
15-34 (30.6 winning %) in 3 years as Chiefs HC
56-77 (42.1 winning %) Career
Longest losing streak in Chiefs history.
Worst season record
Most losses in a 2 year span (26) in Chiefs History.
Most losses at home (7)
Most points allowed in Franchise History
Herm said "Practice always goes well. It's those games we have trouble with."

Personnel Moves
Croyle as QBOTF with no backup (I'm looking at you Huard)
Alfonso Boone at LDE...Seriously
Moving Hali to RDE
Ty "your damn shoes" Law
The Medlock Fiasco
Novak over Barth
Huard started 2007
Damion McIntosh at RT over Taylor and Richardson
Adrian Jones at RG over anyone else on the roster
DJ at MLB
Jeff Webb continues to be on the roster
Gun remains employed
Krumrie remains employed
Kris Wilson at Fullback
Boomer at Fullback

Game Management
Wasted 2 timeouts in 1 play
Lost 8 games by 7 points or less in 2008
Herm decided to punt to Peyton Manning with 3:30 left on THIRD DOWN instead of seeing what his appointed QBOTF who played well to that point had.
Herm pulled a similar move with the game winding down with the Saints in 2008

Offensive Dumbassery
416 carries for LJ
No first downs in the first half of the Indy Playoff game
We ran the option...WTF?!

Defensive Dumbassery
NOTE: Herm was brought in as a defensive guy
Fewest season sacks in NFL history
Most points yeilded in 1 game by a chiefs team (54 vs Buffalo)
Chiefs gave up 2543 rushing yards in 2008
The return of the 32 D

**BigRedChief** · 12-29-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefPote

The local newspaper in Columbus had a quote from Herm on the top of the sports page.

"Practice always goes well. It's those games we have trouble with." Herm Edwards, coach of the 2-13 Chiefs, who end their season Sunday playing the Bengals.

**Dave Lane** · 12-29-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefPote

The local newspaper in Columbus had a quote from Herm on the top of the sports page.

"Practice always goes well. It's those games we have trouble with." Herm Edwards, coach of the 2-13 Chiefs, who end their season Sunday playing the Bengals.

Holy crap did he really say that OMFG!!!

Chief Pote · 12-29-2008, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Holy crap did he really say that OMFG!!!

Yup....link, check the bottom of the page.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/search/...rtBy=relevancy

MikeMaslowski · 12-29-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane

Holy crap did he really say that OMFG!!!

I bet Larry runs through our front 7 and Thiggy tears apart our secondary..

We Play to Win in Practice....

**Buehler445** · 12-29-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefPote

Yup....link, check the bottom of the page.

http://www.dispatch.com/live/search/...rtBy=relevancy

****ing Christ Herm is a giant waste of space.

I added that to the list.

Here's the Link

kcchuck · 12-29-2008, 11:11 AM

We can't run the ball, we can't stop the run, he was brought into "fix" the defense, THREE FREAKING YEARS AGO!

**Lzen** · 12-29-2008, 11:36 AM

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Herm decided to punt to Peyton Manning with 3:30 left on THIRD DOWN instead of seeing what his appointed QBOTF who played well to that point had.

What was this?

**Buehler445** · 12-29-2008, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lzen

What was this?

2007 game at Indy. Here were my initial thoughts....

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I know when I lost my faith in Herm. It was in this year's Indy game. It was 3rd and 18 with 7:35 left in the game. Herm ran a draw play for 2 yards. As soon as I saw Kolby take the ball, I screamed at the TV, "You are punting to Peyton Manning you ****ing idiot!" and Manning took all the time and won the game.

Yeah, lots of coaches run the ball on third and long, but punting to Manning with the game on the line is a collosal mistake. All to gain 2 yards for your punter. You have to nut up and take a shot. If you take a sack for 5 yards, your kicker has to kick it 7 additoinal yards oh god! You have to ****ing try to win the game. You just have to.

To that point, I had put up with his BS, even though starting Huard pissed me off to no end. But that was it. There is most definitely a time to run the ball, play for field position, and let your defense do your thing. But there is also a time to exercise intestinal fortitude, put the ball in your playmakers hands and try to win the game.

Herm may make a decent coach someday, but at this point, he isn't it. All we can hope for is a offensive genius, because I don't think he's headed anywhere soon.

acesn8s · 12-29-2008, 11:43 AM

He couldn't even provide a def. or off. line that was worth a flip. They can't run the ball or provide enough protection for a pocket passing QB. They cant stop the run or put any pressure on the opposing QB. The game is won or lost on that line. 9-7 with Vermeil's line but only 6-26 with his own.

R&GHomer · 12-29-2008, 11:45 AM

I was on the fence yesterday morning. But if he can't get his team to play better against the Bengals, then screw him. Time to move on. The only coach that should remain is Gailey

SCTrojan · 12-29-2008, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega

These are all good reasons, but i only need one:

2-23.

Game over. Herm seems like a good guy, and the players seem to rally to him, but this thing has got to be blown up.

**Buehler445** · 12-29-2008, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SCTrojan

Game over. Herm seems like a good guy, and the players seem to rally to him, but this thing has got to be blown up.

I view it more like taken out behind the barn and beat to death with a shovel.

Hammock Parties · 12-29-2008, 03:26 PM

Add Hali to RDE
Herm also punted to Drew Brees instead of going for a short fourth down in opponents' territory with the game winding down

Reerun_KC · 12-29-2008, 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefPote

The local newspaper in Columbus had a quote from Herm on the top of the sports page.

"Practice always goes well. It's those games we have trouble with." Herm Edwards, coach of the 2-13 Chiefs, who end their season Sunday playing the Bengals.

That is great can you give us a link? Please?

blueballs · 12-29-2008, 03:41 PM

Herm is left out hanging in the breeze
dangling completely unprotected
I'm surprised some ain't enjoying the hell out of that

12-29-2008, 09:51 AM
Buehler445 Supporter Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Scott City KS Casino cash: $2314734	*The Official HERM MUST BE FIRED IMMEDIATELY Reasoning and Statistics Repository* Much like the offseason moves repository htis used to do, I think we should use this as the official listing of all the reasons Herm should be fired immediately. Feel free to contribute your thoughts. I robbed some of the stuff in Rainman's Record thread here General Ineptitude 2-14 in 2008 4-12 in 2007 2-23 in last 25 games 15-34 (30.6 winning %) in 3 years as Chiefs HC 56-77 (42.1 winning %) Career Longest losing streak in Chiefs history. Worst season record Most losses in a 2 year span (26) in Chiefs History. Most losses at home (7) Most points allowed in Franchise History Herm said "Practice always goes well. It's those games we have trouble with." Personnel Moves Croyle as QBOTF with no backup (I'm looking at you Huard) Alfonso Boone at LDE...Seriously Moving Hali to RDE Ty "your damn shoes" Law The Medlock Fiasco Novak over Barth Huard started 2007 Damion McIntosh at RT over Taylor and Richardson Adrian Jones at RG over anyone else on the roster DJ at MLB Jeff Webb continues to be on the roster Gun remains employed Krumrie remains employed Kris Wilson at Fullback Boomer at Fullback Game Management Wasted 2 timeouts in 1 play Lost 8 games by 7 points or less in 2008 Herm decided to punt to Peyton Manning with 3:30 left on THIRD DOWN instead of seeing what his appointed QBOTF who played well to that point had. Herm pulled a similar move with the game winding down with the Saints in 2008 Offensive Dumbassery 416 carries for LJ No first downs in the first half of the Indy Playoff game We ran the option...WTF?! Defensive Dumbassery NOTE: Herm was brought in as a defensive guy Fewest season sacks in NFL history Most points yeilded in 1 game by a chiefs team (54 vs Buffalo) Chiefs gave up 2543 rushing yards in 2008 The return of the 32 D Last edited by Buehler445; 01-16-2009 at 08:17 AM..
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12-29-2008, 11:11 AM	#21
kcchuck Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: KCMO Casino cash: $10004900	We can't run the ball, we can't stop the run, he was brought into "fix" the defense, THREE FREAKING YEARS AGO! __________________ God bless our troops! Go Chiefs! www.TailgateCouch.com
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12-29-2008, 11:43 AM	#24
acesn8s MVP Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Here Casino cash: $10007119	He couldn't even provide a def. or off. line that was worth a flip. They can't run the ball or provide enough protection for a pocket passing QB. They cant stop the run or put any pressure on the opposing QB. The game is won or lost on that line. 9-7 with Vermeil's line but only 6-26 with his own. __________________ Let's not take another 50 years.
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12-29-2008, 11:45 AM	#25
R&GHomer Veteran Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $10004900	I was on the fence yesterday morning. But if he can't get his team to play better against the Bengals, then screw him. Time to move on. The only coach that should remain is Gailey __________________ Tod Haley: "I just want to coach well, have our team play well and make this city proud of us again."
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12-29-2008, 03:26 PM	#28
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4710478	Add Hali to RDE Herm also punted to Drew Brees instead of going for a short fourth down in opponents' territory with the game winding down __________________ Chiefs game films
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12-29-2008, 03:41 PM	#30
blueballs Banned Join Date: Feb 2006 Casino cash: $10004900	Herm is left out hanging in the breeze dangling completely unprotected I'm surprised some ain't enjoying the hell out of that
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