Chiefs -- Hey CP - Where exactly are you with regards to Justin Houston? - Page 4

TomBarndtsTwin · 02-14-2019, 09:07 AM

Ride it out with him this year to see how he cuts it in the new 4-3 defense.

If he performs, restructure his contract next year to save money on the cap going forward.

If he continues to drop off, release him after next year with no cap liability and you just freed up $22 million dollars of cap space to use on Hill and Jones new contracts.

oldman · 02-14-2019, 09:08 AM

If it comes down to Houston vs. Ford, it's a no-brainer keeping Houston. Ford is a one-trick pony. I we're going to a 4-3, playing Houston at DE makes a lot more sense than Ford. Speaks will do just fine at the other DE.

TomBarndtsTwin · 02-14-2019, 09:08 AM

But if they decide he doesn't 'fit' this defense and/or the new D coaches think they'll be better off w/o him and possibly using his money elsewhere, then just cut him now and be done with it.

Eleazar · 02-14-2019, 10:06 AM

Letting him go is probably the right move, but I could still be on board with keeping him another year to see how the new scheme might help him contribute something to the defense that is more commensurate to his salary.

htismaqe · 02-14-2019, 10:09 AM

I too would rather keep Houston than Ford. All I know is they can't keep both of them.

philfree · 02-14-2019, 10:16 AM

9 sacks, 5 FF and 1 INT in 11 games won't be easy to replace. I'm good with keeping Houston but I'd extend him and lower his cap number. That said If Spags doesn't think he fits I'd try and trade him to Romeo Crennel or maybe the Falcons or some place he desires where he'll be okay with re-working his contract so the trade would go through. I wouldn't just cut him because he's still a good player.

Doob02 · 02-14-2019, 10:20 AM

Have to keep him at least another year. I think it best to see how he translates to the new scheme and coaching. Could be a game changer. Regardless I would still try to lower his cap number and ask him to join the mind scheme of the future is now and we have Mahomie!!

O.city · 02-14-2019, 10:27 AM

I think he'll age pretty well in that he won't just fall off the cliff. Similar to how Suggs has with the Ravens.

I'd be fine extending him and getting the number down. Problem is with injuries.

htismaqe · 02-14-2019, 10:28 AM

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I think he'll age pretty well in that he won't just fall off the cliff. Similar to how Suggs has with the Ravens.

I'd be fine extending him and getting the number down. Problem is with injuries.

Injuries are the reason I wouldn't keep Ford.

O.city · 02-14-2019, 10:30 AM

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Injuries are the reason I wouldn't keep Ford.

I've come to expect them to tag him so I've just kinda moved on, atleast with Ford its' just for a season in which he'll likely play his ass off again for a new deal elsewhere.

htismaqe · 02-14-2019, 10:33 AM

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I've come to expect them to tag him so I've just kinda moved on, atleast with Ford its' just for a season in which he'll likely play his ass off again for a new deal elsewhere.

I'm just not keen on $15M (or more, if they have to tag him as a 4-3 DE) sitting on the bench all year, after what just happened with Berry.

Aspengc8 · 02-14-2019, 10:35 AM

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I'm just not keen on $15M (or more, if they have to tag him as a 4-3 DE) sitting on the bench all year, after what just happened with Berry.

Houston can be moved around. Ford cannot. I would tag ford and trade for a pick, hopefully to draft a MLB or true SAM. Houston can play the weak end/rush end easily.

Mecca · 02-14-2019, 10:42 AM

I don't think the Chiefs are super high on Ford either...I just don't think that they think they can replace him this year.

O.city · 02-14-2019, 10:43 AM

I'm guessing they figure they're gonna be jumping out to leads a lot and teams are going to be throwing it a lot.

They'll wanna keep Ford around to rush the passer.

htismaqe · 02-14-2019, 10:51 AM

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I'm guessing they figure they're gonna be jumping out to leads a lot and teams are going to be throwing it a lot.

They'll wanna keep Ford around to rush the passer.

There were games last year, like at Denver, that could have easily been losses if they had just kept running the ball. Ford is a liability in that sense.

It just seems like a terrible gamble for a team that has legit Super Bowl aspirations.

02-14-2019, 09:07 AM	#1
TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $4989883	Ride it out with him this year to see how he cuts it in the new 4-3 defense. If he performs, restructure his contract next year to save money on the cap going forward. If he continues to drop off, release him after next year with no cap liability and you just freed up $22 million dollars of cap space to use on Hill and Jones new contracts.
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oldman Curmudgeon Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: North by Northwest Casino cash: $5836784	If it comes down to Houston vs. Ford, it's a no-brainer keeping Houston. Ford is a one-trick pony. I we're going to a 4-3, playing Houston at DE makes a lot more sense than Ford. Speaks will do just fine at the other DE.
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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Letting him go is probably the right move, but I could still be on board with keeping him another year to see how the new scheme might help him contribute something to the defense that is more commensurate to his salary.
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	I too would rather keep Houston than Ford. All I know is they can't keep both of them.
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philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $1476198	9 sacks, 5 FF and 1 INT in 11 games won't be easy to replace. I'm good with keeping Houston but I'd extend him and lower his cap number. That said If Spags doesn't think he fits I'd try and trade him to Romeo Crennel or maybe the Falcons or some place he desires where he'll be okay with re-working his contract so the trade would go through. I wouldn't just cut him because he's still a good player. __________________ [/SIGPIC]
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Doob02 doob02 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Atlantic, IA Casino cash: $10008160	Have to keep him at least another year. I think it best to see how he translates to the new scheme and coaching. Could be a game changer. Regardless I would still try to lower his cap number and ask him to join the mind scheme of the future is now and we have Mahomie!!
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02-14-2019, 10:27 AM	#8
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2584064	I think he'll age pretty well in that he won't just fall off the cliff. Similar to how Suggs has with the Ravens. I'd be fine extending him and getting the number down. Problem is with injuries.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2584064	I'm guessing they figure they're gonna be jumping out to leads a lot and teams are going to be throwing it a lot. They'll wanna keep Ford around to rush the passer.
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