Let's talk about the Bengals

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A sneaky big game in the AFC, and probably our toughest game left before playoff time.

Talk about it here

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Cincinnati Chili

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

biggest and toughest game of the year so far. If Chase is back we are going to need all hands on deck in the secondary.

The Bills, when we played them, were probably a tougher matchup.

We are absolutely the toughest matchup that the Bengals have seen all year. They’ve played a really bad group of QBs so far.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Hank Hill

Cincinnati Chili

[ThaVirus]

Normally I wouldn't care too much about a regular season matchup, but I think this was is important for our pride.

We can't go 0-3 against this particular team in a single calendar year.

[DrunkBassGuitar]

a cinicnatti chili bowl sounds like some obscene sex act like a chili dog or a kansas city carwash

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar

a cinicnatti chili bowl sounds like some obscene sex act like a chili dog or a kansas city carwash

It's not even ****ing chili. It's ****ing dog shit on a bed of spaghetti.

[RunKC]

Gonna get a real good look at our rookie corners in this one

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by In58men

We should be getting Toney back as well, going to be an all hands on deck for both teams. Chiefs know they need that #1 seed.

Oh really? How do you know this? Isn't his issue a hamstring? Those can be very tricky, especially if you try to bring a guy back too soon.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

This thread is pretty much a rah-rah thread, but here's some actual analysis.

This Bengals team is damn good. Way better than their record.

Burrow is fantastic, of course, and they have a top 3 set of offensive weapons in the NFL. We should assume Jamar Chase magically is healthy enough to play this week, and this is one of those games Spags loses sleep over. To accommodate the rookies in the secondary, his back seven is incredibly basic zone, and really good QBs can carve it up if they don't face a ton of pressure. If we can't get a ton of pressure on Burrow, it's going to be very hard to stop him, even without Chase. Their weapons really are that good. (For the record, the Bengals will get one additional year of not-breaking-the-bank-Burrow, but two years from now this team is going to have to pay Burrow and Chase, and it's going to gut their team.)

After the bye, Spags has done everything in his power to generate the best possible passrush, and it shows. The Chiefs live in teams' backfields right now -- though I do wonder how well that's going to work against Cincy. The Titans have a really great passrush and only planted his ass in the dirt once. Do not believe the advance stats, guys: the Bengals offensive line is very good in pass protection now. They're healthy and they're not allowing a ton of pressure.

Of course, the Chiefs have a cheat code in Chris Jones, but Burrow is nearly Mahomes-esque in pocket navigation. They need multiple passrushers to have a game, and Spags needs to be surgical with his blitz calls: none of these stupid fire blitz calls by the handful that killed the D against Josh Allen.

The Bengals have a run game that is workable, but won't kill them necessarily. Mixon is very good but not healthy. Perine is basically late-career Spencer Ware: good player, but he's not the guy who beats you.

The Bengals defense is underrated, I think. They just shut down Derrick Henry, which is somewhat deceptive. They stacked the box against the Titans, which you can't do against Mahomes. But their two interior DTs are healthy now and they're massive and extremely hard to move.

The Bengals have a good secondary, but it doesn't matter right now with Mahomes and this offense... This is as good an offense as the Chiefs have ever had, and the multitude of weapons the Chiefs boast with what's probably going to be an A-game from Andy Reid with tons of man beaters... I just don't think there's much the secondary will be able to do other than double Kelce and dare Mahomes to beat them with anybody else. Mahomes is extremely sharp this year, and he will beat them with everybody else.

The only hope for the Bengals is to get to Mahomes, and Hendrickson/Hubbard is going to give our tackles a lot of problems. I'm guessing the Chiefs give Wylie as much help as they can manage in this game, and just pray Brown can hold off Hendrickson, which he couldn't in the playoffs. So this will be how the Bengals contains Mahomes, if at all.

The Bengals also have that deadly "rush three with a spy" alignment that they stifled Mahomes with twice last season, including the AFCCG where Mahomes was so locked down, he seemingly forgot how to play football. I suspect the better talent this team has across the board will be the solution to that problem, but it's not one we should dare to forget.

The Bengals are a balanced team, with a metric ton of offensive talent, a good secondary, and tough in the trenches.

The Chiefs are capable of handling all this, but they have to get to Burrow, and they have to keep Mahomes clean.

I do agree with everyone that Mahomes and Reid want to absolutely murder the Bengals, and I bet both of them will be at the top of their game. But there's a reason the Bengals swept us last year in the exact same way: they are very talented and their coaching staff had a great feel for our tendencies.

I have this game as a true tossup, maybe even a very slight lean to the Bengals.

Ok. Counterpoint. KC still almost beat them twice last year (the offense going into a cocoon in the second half of both games the biggest culprit for the loss). KC did this with Mike Hughes, Deandre Baker, Business Decision, Neimann, Sorensen, and Hitchens on defense. We have upgraded every one of those positions this year.

[TEX]

Need to beat the Natti. Period. If not, it's a real thing.

[louie aguiar]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Gonna get a real good look at our rookie corners in this one

This will be a test for sure. Ward had good coverage a few times last year but could never do enough to break up passes. I do remember chase getting away with pushes in the back to give him more room to make the catches though.

[Mecca]

They didn't "shut down" Derrick Henry, Henry is fading as has happened the last few years because he has far to many touches of the ball.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

They've never played against Trent McDuffie #21. Consider Higgins eliminated. Sneed will be on Chase until his hip flares up. We got Bolton spying Mixon. Our defense is better than any they've seen in the past.

Oh, and Chris Jones is having a career year, 10 sacks so Far. He'll add to that Sunday.

I would have Gay spy Mixon. He has more speed to keep up with him.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Why Not?

Here's some depthful analysis:

It would greatly help to get the outcome in our favor if we can score more than 3 points after halftime.

Yup. Six points combined in two games isn’t going to cut it.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Mecca

They didn't "shut down" Derrick Henry, Henry is fading as has happened the last few years because he has far to many touches of the ball.

Sacrificing long term value for short term success. That’s what is inevitably going to happen to these QBs who do all these designed runs.