Please don't jump off the bridge just yet...

htismaqe · 07-28-2006, 09:39 AM

Look, I'm as distraught as the rest of you about Roaf's retirement, but somebody here has to provide some positive input, because I don't feel like rebooting the server every 30 minutes today.

I submit to all of you the Buffalo game.

It was a shining example of Saunders and Vermeil going away from LJ and the run and passing the ball despite heavy pressure from the Buffalo defense.

Larry finished that game with 27 rushes for 132 yards, a 4.9ypc average - without Willie Roaf.

In fact, in the games Willie missed, Larry rushed for about 4.7ypc. And LJ set the single-game rushing record against Houston without Willie Roaf.

Perhaps Herm's conservatism is precisely what we need right now? We can only hope.

**cdcox** · 07-28-2006, 09:41 AM

There is a bridge? Where is it?

FringeNC · 07-28-2006, 09:51 AM

There seems to be this feeling we were the 1999-2002 St. Louis Rams under Vermeil/Sanders. We weren't. Under supposed "Air Saunders" we ran the ball more than 80-90% of the other teams in the league. We simply have little room to run the ball more without being totally predictable.

My reason not to jump off the bridge is that going from Roaf to Black was going from the best in the league to the worst. I think we can put someone in there at LT who doesn't suck nearly as much as Jordan Black.

**banyon** · 07-28-2006, 09:44 AM

I am grabbing an anvil so that my descent off the bridge will go that much faster.

Eleazar · 07-28-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by banyon

I am grabbing an anvil so that my descent off the bridge will go that much faster.

Did you major in physics?

**DaFace** · 07-28-2006, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Did you major in physics?

Well, the descent wouldn't be any faster, but you would sink in the water more quickly with an anvil.

**banyon** · 07-28-2006, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Did you major in physics?

clearly not, as my understanding of physics is based on watching Wile E. Coyote.

**BigRedChief** · 07-28-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by banyon

clearly not, as my understanding of physics is based on watching Wile E. Coyote.

Television is best used as an education resource. Rep for Banyon

**Lzen** · 07-28-2006, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Did you major in physics?

Mr. Laz · 07-28-2006, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Perhaps Herm's conservatism is precisely what we need right now? We can only hope.

that's crap ..... if you don't think that herm's conservatism will put more pressure on the need for great offensive line play then you've just smoked a bowl and haven't come back down yet.

htismaqe · 07-28-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

that's crap ..... if you don't think that herm's conservatism will put more pressure on the need for great offensive line play then you've just smoked a bowl and haven't come back down yet.

Have you ever played offensive line?

Run blocking is MUCH less difficult than pass blocking, especially if you take out the swing/pull plays and run straight ahead.

Even Jordan Black can do it.

Mr. Laz · 07-28-2006, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Have you ever played offensive line?

Run blocking is MUCH less difficult than pass blocking, especially if you take out the swing/pull plays and run straight ahead.

Even Jordan Black can do it.

ya ... and when the defense knows we are going to run?

and when we do try and pass but have to keep gonzo in as a blocker?

the worst thing that can happen to an offense is being predictable.

i'm not jumping off a bridge, but hermy-ball ain't gonna help the situation.

htismaqe · 07-28-2006, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Laz

ya ... and when the defense knows we are going to run?

and when we do try and pass but have to keep gonzo in as a blocker?

the worst thing that can happen to an offense is being predictable.

i'm not jumping off a bridge, but hermy-ball ain't gonna help the situation.

Go to a 2TE set, have Dunn help the LT and have TG go out for the pass.

It's really not all that difficult, and if we all here can think of stuff like this, you damn bet professional coaches already have contingency plans.

All I'm saying is don't get pretty. Run PA, run the ball, and be smart.

That doesn't necessarily equal predictable. At times, even Saunders ball was predictable.

Calcountry · 07-28-2006, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Have you ever played offensive line?

Run blocking is MUCH less difficult than pass blocking, especially if you take out the swing/pull plays and run straight ahead.

Even Jordan Black can do it.

I just hope we don't go back to the Nigerian body left, Nigerian body right play book. As big as Okoye was, he was getting murdered by LB's and Safety's once the whole league knew that we wouldn't pass until 3rd down.

**morphius** · 07-28-2006, 09:45 AM

And without Roaf we don't have to worry about the deep ball, so Kennison can kiss our ass

Oh?
You don't say?
I guess you are right, I'm really not helping.

07-28-2006, 09:39 AM	Topic Starter
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Please don't jump off the bridge just yet... Look, I'm as distraught as the rest of you about Roaf's retirement, but somebody here has to provide some positive input, because I don't feel like rebooting the server every 30 minutes today. I submit to all of you the Buffalo game. It was a shining example of Saunders and Vermeil going away from LJ and the run and passing the ball despite heavy pressure from the Buffalo defense. Larry finished that game with 27 rushes for 132 yards, a 4.9ypc average - without Willie Roaf. In fact, in the games Willie missed, Larry rushed for about 4.7ypc. And LJ set the single-game rushing record against Houston without Willie Roaf. Perhaps Herm's conservatism is precisely what we need right now? We can only hope.
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07-28-2006, 09:41 AM	#2
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07-28-2006, 09:51 AM	#3
FringeNC MVP Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: NC Casino cash: $1786014	There seems to be this feeling we were the 1999-2002 St. Louis Rams under Vermeil/Sanders. We weren't. Under supposed "Air Saunders" we ran the ball more than 80-90% of the other teams in the league. We simply have little room to run the ball more without being totally predictable. My reason not to jump off the bridge is that going from Roaf to Black was going from the best in the league to the worst. I think we can put someone in there at LT who doesn't suck nearly as much as Jordan Black.
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07-28-2006, 09:45 AM	#15
morphius World's finest morphius Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $6925027	And without Roaf we don't have to worry about the deep ball, so Kennison can kiss our ass Oh? You don't say? I guess you are right, I'm really not helping.
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