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Old 10-16-2018, 09:18 AM   #1
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Maybe the reason all our new guys on defense suck is because the defense takes three years to learn, by our own d-coordinator's admission.
Christ, this defense is never going to be decent.
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Old 10-15-2018, 06:25 PM   #2
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Fuller has played below expectations. So has Hitchens.

The only guys that seems to be playing up to his potential (even though it isn't a high ceiling) is Scandrick and he's a 10-year vet.

Sutton HAS to be the problem at this point.
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Old 10-16-2018, 01:34 AM   #3
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Fuller has played below expectations. So has Hitchens.

The only guys that seems to be playing up to his potential (even though it isn't a high ceiling) is Scandrick and he's a 10-year vet.

Sutton HAS to be the problem at this point.
Scandrick has gotten better since the Chargers game. Against the Chargers he beaten badly on more than one occasion.

Hitchens kinda went in the other direction. He looked good early, but now his play has fallen off substantially. I know someone is going to bring up how many tackles he has, but someone on the defense has to get credited with tackles. It's like KU playing four guards, and Dave Armstrong talking up how well Vick rebounds. Someone has to get the rebounds.

They have both been big disappointments. But I feel like Sutton is coaching all the good habits and techniques out of Hitchens, but Fuller is just sooooo slooooow it does not matter where he lines up.

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Old 10-16-2018, 08:38 AM   #4
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Ragland must really be hurt. He played well against the run last year. The only change has been to NT and his "swollen knees." Otherwise his decline doesn't really make much sense.
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Old 10-15-2018, 06:30 PM   #5
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:35 PM   #6
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We should put Tyreek in on defense from time to time...guarantee he will get to the ball...
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:36 PM   #7
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:39 PM   #8
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Ragland has regressed, hitchens looked better last year.....

I just can't decide if the obvious D.C. Issue is heat is wrong or if the front 3 are shitty and not eating blocks which hurts the LB ability to make plays.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:40 PM   #9
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Hitchens may honestly just be a 4-3 LB that doesn't translate to a 3-4.
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:45 PM   #10
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Hitchens may honestly just be a 4-3 LB that doesn't translate to a 3-4.
So Fuller is a slot CB that we are using on the outside. Hitchens is a 4-3 LB that we are using in a 3-4. Ragland is a 2-down dinosaur LB that should have played under Marty Schottenheimer. What could possibly be the problem?
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Old 10-15-2018, 07:47 PM   #11
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So Fuller is a slot CB that we are using on the outside. Hitchens is a 4-3 LB that we are using in a 3-4. Ragland is a 2-down dinosaur LB that should have played under Marty Schottenheimer. What could possibly be the problem?
And a safety that doesn't play, a one trick pony OLB mixed with another OLB that is about half the player he used to be...

Oh and a DL that talks a huge game and then plays hard about 40% of the time.
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Old 10-15-2018, 08:58 PM   #12
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If Fuller sucks ass in a different scheme and DC, I will agree.... Until then, I'm game for watching him under different management.
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Old 10-15-2018, 10:04 PM   #13
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If Fuller sucks ass in a different scheme and DC, I will agree.... Until then, I'm game for watching him under different management.
Dude had a 50/50 career up to the trade. He sucked shit his rookie season on the outside and had a good 2nd season as a slot. He was always a gamble, don't give a damn what some around here wanted to believe.

And frankly, he's been fine in coverage. Can't tackle worth a shit though.
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Suttons scheme is also stupid for the shit it asks DB's to do. Do you think it's any coincidence how bad all of these guys look here?
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