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Old 09-25-2018, 09:28 PM   #1
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I think odaniel is going to be a good player.
Agreed, these defensive players need room to gow in the new nfl.

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Old 09-25-2018, 09:36 PM   #2
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I think odaniel is going to be a good player.
I agree - he's behind from TC injury. Also Nnadi's legs are YUGE IRL.
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Old 09-25-2018, 10:56 PM   #3
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As I’ve been noting, he’s solid against the run.
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He good against the run. Well wooopie. We are still dead last in like all categories. Another day is over and Veach has done nothing. I really feel like he will continue to do nothing.
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Old 10-16-2018, 05:33 PM   #9
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He good against the run. Well wooopie. We are still dead last in like all categories. Another day is over and Veach has done nothing. I really feel like he will continue to do nothing.
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He good against the run. Well wooopie. We are still dead last in like all categories. Another day is over and Veach has done nothing. I really feel like he will continue to do nothing.
Yeah. We shouldn't even evaluate the individual performance of our players because we're terrible now and we're always going to be terrible. Just throw in the towel and give up. We're ****ed.
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Old 10-16-2018, 05:45 PM   #11
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As I’ve been noting, he’s solid against the run.
Just more evidence that the 3-4 needs to go, then.

Because there's offensive linemen at the 2nd level on nearly every play. Hitchens had the center on him a dozen times against NE. No DL even touched the center.
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Just more evidence that the 3-4 needs to go, then.

Because there's offensive linemen at the 2nd level on nearly every play. Hitchens had the center on him a dozen times against NE. No DL even touched the center.
Alot of that is because Chris Jones takes half the game off and then spends his time trying to be a penetrator which leads to dudes getting to the second level on blocks.
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Alot of that is because Chris Jones takes half the game off and then spends his time trying to be a penetrator which leads to dudes getting to the second level on blocks.
I don’t think that he takes it off. He’s just trying to get a sack on every play and runs his way out of his gap on run plays which kills everyone else.
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Just more evidence that the 3-4 needs to go, then.

Because there's offensive linemen at the 2nd level on nearly every play. Hitchens had the center on him a dozen times against NE. No DL even touched the center.
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Just more evidence that the 3-4 needs to go, then.

Because there's offensive linemen at the 2nd level on nearly every play. Hitchens had the center on him a dozen times against NE. No DL even touched the center.
I have watched the game a couple of times now, and watched all previous games more than once, including the all-22, and there are times that the linebackers literally run to the LOS, and directly engage offensive linemen, completely taking themselves out of the play.

It's maddening. Some were making fun of others who wanted to sign DJ, because he is old and slow, but he very rarely engaged the offensive line, and stayed free to run to the ball.

As I have stated many times, Sutton cannot call defenses and scheme in a way to take advantage of the strengths of the players. I believe that switching to a 4-3 would free up the backers to run to the ball, obviously, but I also think our pass rush would improve.

Let me give you the starting defensive line I would like to see.

6'1" 317lb Derrick Nnadi at right tackle, 6'2" 310lb Xavier Williams at left tackle, Chris Jones at left defensive end, Allen Bailey at right defensive end.

I believe that Bailey is an absolute athletic freak, and he is very fast for his size, and would be able to be a very effective end. Chris Jones is also extremely athletic for his size, and fast too. Jones and Bailey could do damage, and with two 300+ pound tackles on the inside, either Jones or Bailey would be getting more one-on-one match ups.

Imagine that group of huge defensive linemen keeping the linebackers away from the O-line. Maybe Hitchens would start to show why he was a big time free agent. Then, on some plays, especially 3rd down, we could overload one side by adding Ford or Houston. And since Sutton likes to put LBs in pass coverage, imagine having Ford at the line, sometimes dropping into zone, or picking up the tight end, and sometimes being the 5th or 6th pass-rusher.

This could cause confusion for the offensive line, because it would make it much harder to account for Ford or Houston, because they would be unsure if they were rushing or dropping back.

And it would not only create chaos if they did rush the passer, but imagine the offensive line guessing wrong, and they switch responsibilities and move the protection to Ford's or Houston's side, which could potentially lead to Jones or Bailey being unblocked.

KPass could rotate through at defensive end. Speaks could play a more natural position at defensive end. He is listed at like 280+ and that's just too big to be a linebacker. Jenkins could rotate at the tackle positions.

Shoot, I just think we are far more suited for the 4-3. Hell, with all those guys rotating through on the D-line, it could create more snaps for guys like KPass and even Dorian O'Daniel.

I am imagining those 4 beasts with their hands in the dirt, Ford, Houston, and Hitchens lurking close to the line, dropping in and out, confusing the O-line, and then the twists and stunts on blitzes. There would be more opportunities to disguise blitzes too, so maybe in a 2-minute situation like the end of the Patriots game, we could sell out and send the kitchen sink at slow ass Tom Brady. The outcome couldn't be any worse than Gronk catching a long pass as he is being covered by a dude that just joined the team.

Anyway, other than Sutton sucking for the basis of being fired during the season, getting someone who could coach an aggressive 4-3 would be a huge plus. Now, as to who that new DC could be, that is easily more debatable than which scheme, 3-4 vs 4-3, we should run.

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