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Old 08-11-2019, 05:33 PM  
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When Jon Gruden took the job I was pretty high on Carr. I told many people “I hate the Raiders but I really like Carr”. After watching Hard Knocks I still like Carr as a person. That said....

If Gruden knew he was signing up for a job in Mahomes division before hand would he have taken this job? I think captain hindsight has his ass in the booth.
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:09 PM   #16
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He did know Mahomes was in the division when he took the job
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:14 PM   #17
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But you can’t put the money aside. The money is why Gruden came back. He passed up better gigs every year. It’s perfect Raiders. They have a coach that doesn’t want to coach but wanted the 100 million. Brilliant!
That would explain why he was defending Antonio Brown in his latest press conference. They have a lot in common.
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:15 PM   #18
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I'm really confused by the post, so you like Carr and liked him previously, but why'd Gruden take a job in a division with PM? I'm not sure I understand why you had to put that part in about Carr. Are you hoping he reads this site and maybe will send you a message about properly wearing mascara? Do you want to suck hisdick?

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Old 08-11-2019, 06:18 PM   #19
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I'm really confused by the post, so you like Carr and liked him previously, but why'd Gruden take a job in a division with PM? I'm not sure I understand why you had to put that part in about Carr. Are you hoping he reads this site and maybe will send you a message about properly wearing mascara? Do you want to suck hisdick?

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I was simply asking if Gruden knew what Mahomes would turn into would he still have taken the job....
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:20 PM   #21
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Would Brian Flores have taken the Dolphins job had he known Tom Brady was in the division? Would Eric Mangini have left his cushy foot licking job and DC of the Patriots and went to coach the Jets had he known Tom Brady was in his division?
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:21 PM   #22
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I was simply asking if Gruden knew what Mahomes would turn into would he still have taken the job....
But Derek Carr
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:39 PM   #25
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Wasn’t gruden 100 mil fully guaranteed

If so doing a shit job and getting fired frees him up to do other things
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If so doing a shit job and getting fired frees him up to do other things
It's probably a partial guarantee. First 4 or 5 years most likely. I doubt the other owners would let Davis give a fully guaranteed 10 year contract. Especially to someone who hasn't coached in a decade.
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Old 08-11-2019, 07:05 PM   #29
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Gruden is doing it right, IMO. He knows he could be 'good' now with Mack and Cooper but he knows with Mahomes good isn't good enough.

He is trading value now, since especailly with the city change in a year or two, now doesn't matter as much, and is trying to be the hottest new thing in the league when they move to Vegas, and compete when Mahomes is making 40 million a year and the Chiefs don't have the roster quite as stacked as they do now.
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