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Old 03-13-2019, 09:48 PM   #1
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I’ll always appreciate what great players did for the chiefs.

But this past year was just ****ing odd. I honestly can’t come up with a reasonable explanation as to what the **** was going on. And no I don’t buy the he just didn’t feel right.

I’d pay good money to know the whole story from both sides.

In the end I’m not thrilled with the day to day business and I’m certainly not crying in my beer over him being cut. He was all business in the negotiations so I am not going to lose any sleep over a business cut.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:04 PM   #2
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But this past year was just ****ing odd. I honestly can’t come up with a reasonable explanation as to what the **** was going on. And no I don’t buy the he just didn’t feel right.
It was at the minimum a 4 month injury that needs time to heal. Pro athlete thinks it could get better and play quicker. Team thinks same thing, not shutting him down. Realize he couldn't when trying. Still ends up playing when he probably shouldn't have. Throw in a quiet dude with a weird personality that's what you get.

Problem is we expect pro athletes to bounce back so quick from injuries because of salary when in reality they really shouldn't because the body needs the natural time to heal and recover like any normal person.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:19 PM   #3
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It was at the minimum a 4 month injury that needs time to heal. Pro athlete thinks it could get better and play quicker. Team thinks same thing, not shutting him down. Realize he couldn't when trying. Still ends up playing when he probably shouldn't have. Throw in a quiet dude with a weird personality that's what you get.

Problem is we expect pro athletes to bounce back so quick from injuries because of salary when in reality they really shouldn't because the body needs the natural time to heal and recover like any normal person.
There isn’t an injury. There is a deformity causing pain. As soon as it was disclosed that it was a Haglund Deformity and it was already decided he wasn’t playing through the pain there should have been surgery.
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:47 PM   #4
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There isn’t an injury. There is a deformity causing pain. As soon as it was disclosed that it was a Haglund Deformity and it was already decided he wasn’t playing through the pain there should have been surgery.
Expect for in Hagland's that's not how it really goes.

Former Chargers Team Doctor Explains It When It's First Menitoned
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...002-story.html

Former Chargers Team Doctor Explains Why No Surgery is needed
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com...301-story.html

Here is another article about Haglund's - this one is really good, explains it in depth
https://www.podiatrytoday.com/how-tr...ormity-runners
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Old 03-13-2019, 10:50 PM   #5
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There isn’t an injury. There is a deformity causing pain. As soon as it was disclosed that it was a Haglund Deformity and it was already decided he wasn’t playing through the pain there should have been surgery.
He thought he could play through or at least manage the pain but couldn’t. It was a wrong decision but nothing that was obviously malicious that he just wanted to steal money.
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Old 03-13-2019, 11:10 PM   #6
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He thought he could play through or at least manage the pain but couldn’t. It was a wrong decision but nothing that was obviously malicious that he just wanted to steal money.
But he knew he would get paid regardless. Which, IMO, influenced the course he chose regarding a plan of action.
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:46 AM   #7
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It was at the minimum a 4 month injury that needs time to heal. Pro athlete thinks it could get better and play quicker. Team thinks same thing, not shutting him down. Realize he couldn't when trying. Still ends up playing when he probably shouldn't have. Throw in a quiet dude with a weird personality that's what you get.

Problem is we expect pro athletes to bounce back so quick from injuries because of salary when in reality they really shouldn't because the body needs the natural time to heal and recover like any normal person.
This. EB came back from CANCER to be a productive player so how do you question his heart and desire to play? His spirit was willing but his flesh was weak. I hate that our last memories of EB are him getting burned by Gronk in the AFC Championship game. We need to remember that game in the ATL that EB won for us almost singlehanded. When EB retires he should be on our coaching staff the next day. I will miss playing the Swiper Boy “Eric Berry” Heisman song on game day. Someone needs to post that. Thanks for the memories EB!
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Old 03-14-2019, 06:54 AM   #8
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Berry had a brilliant 16 season, motivated by money being a contract year just like Ford. He was good for a few years but mostly a broke ass. People on CP act like he was Ed Reed. He was never that great and purely a box safety. 8 years of his career he's only played 4. 3 he missed the whole season and 1 he missed 9 games.
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Old 03-14-2019, 07:10 AM   #9
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Berry had a brilliant 16 season, motivated by money being a contract year just like Ford. He was good for a few years but mostly a broke ass. People on CP act like he was Ed Reed. He was never that great and purely a box safety. 8 years of his career he's only played 4. 3 he missed the whole season and 1 he missed 9 games.
He was really good in his non contract years too. He was a badass when actually healthy....he just had some terrible luck with the ACL (FU Stevie whateveryoulastnamewas), the cancer (FU cancer), and achilles (FU achilles). Unfortunately, it all ended in the haglund's debacle and he left us with a terrible taste in our mouths.
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:55 PM   #10
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Old 03-13-2019, 09:59 PM   #11
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Wasn’t Big Red saying at the combine presser he fully expected Hobo to be healthy and contributing this year?
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Wasn’t Big Red saying at the combine presser he fully expected Hobo to be healthy and contributing this year?
He sure did! And some folks bought it hook, line, and sinker.
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Old 03-14-2019, 12:27 PM   #13
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He sure did! And some folks bought it hook, line, and sinker.
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So when I suggest going after Za'Darius Smith because he could rush for the outside the response was...

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Was nobody paying attention when Andy Reid said the pass rush was coming from the gut and not the outside? Did everyone have cotton in their ears that day?
So, should we listen to Reid... nor not?

/totally possible I missed something
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Wasn’t Big Red saying at the combine presser he fully expected Hobo to be healthy and contributing this year?
This is what drives me nuts about ****ing reeruns on this site using anything that Andy Reid or anyone in this organization says as evidence to prove their point. They will literally always give the company line and wont ever say anything negative or ground breaking.
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