Disappointed in McCluster

[Hammock Parties]

Bla bla bla, he's a playmaker, he has two touchdowns already, whatever.

He has seven catches for 93 yards. 1/3 of that yardage came on one play. At least two of those are screen passes I believe.

That ****ing sucks.

This guy needs to be a threat as a WIDE RECEIVER. He hasnt made a single play down the field. I'm not even talking 20 yards. How about 10? How about coming off the line, putting your foot in the ground, getting open and giving Cassel a target?

I'm not willing to accept the idea that Cassel is so god awful he makes all our wide receivers look terrible.

McCluster hasn't done shit yet. And he was utter garbage in Indy.

Don't buy any of his ****ing t-shirts.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Han Solo

He's not 190 lbs.

I bet he's not 200 either.
He's had shoulder problems, and just missed almost an entire season due to injury.
Surely you're not this dense.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Han Solo

You guys are geniouses.

Favor a rookie over perhaps the best RB in the NFL.

Listen to yourselves. You would think Trent Richardson had already done something in the NFL. He might not even be a good fit behind our line, which looked demonstrably worse without Charles last season.

How would Charles be a good fit if Richardson wouldn't be?

Jones/Battle are not Richardson.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Han Solo

You guys are geniouses.

Favor a rookie over perhaps the best RB in the NFL.

Listen to yourselves. You would think Trent Richardson had already done something in the NFL. He might not even be a good fit behind our line, which looked demonstrably worse without Charles last season.

I repeat:
He's had shoulder problems, and just missed almost an entire season due to injury.
Surely you're not this dense.

[Hammock Parties]

I dunno, it seems more dense to me to think that a stud RB who has had months to recover can't handle a very light workload.

19 touches a game is not a lot.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by jd1020

How would Charles be a good fit if Richardson wouldn't be?

Because he has a different running style.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Han Solo

You guys are geniouses.

Favor a rookie over perhaps the best RB in the NFL.

Listen to yourselves. You would think Trent Richardson had already done something in the NFL. He might not even be a good fit behind our line, which looked demonstrably worse without Charles last season.

Nobody knows how Charles will run, post injury.

If we draft Trent Richardson, he will get a lot more carries than Charles.

In 2010, the year you keep siting, Thomas Jones had about the same carries as a healthy Jamaal Charles.

Trent Richardson is 3 times the back Jones EVER WAS and Charles is coming off major injury.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Man, just sniping for me, aren't you?

McCluster wasn't a gimmick in 2011. He played snaps at RB because they needed him--he was the only speed option the Chiefs had in the backfield. Sure, when they got him on the field, they had the flexibility to use him as a receiver. But it's not like you were putting him on the field at the expense of a better player.

Next year, the only way he gets on the field is to take good players off. There are a few plays where he genuinely needs to take a guy's spot because of injury or because your top 2 RBs are gassed. Otherwise, it's hard to imagine a play where you take an important player off unless you're trying to force some kind of a gimmick on the offense.

Sniping for you?

I see a dumbshit posting dumb shit, I call him out on it, dumb shit.

McCluster is a gimmick player. period.

He got more touches last season because of injury, but he still is nothing more than a gimmick player.

He's gimmick player that can't break tackles, nor can he make people miss, so he's a useless ****ing gimmick player.

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by Han Solo

Because he has a different running style.

Richardson, by all accounts, is everything all bundled up in one.

He can get you with speed.

He can get you with power.

He can get you with finesse (have you seen some of his cuts?).

[BossChief]

Michael Turner and MauriceJones-Drew are the only backs in the NFL that had 300 carries last year.

Turner only had 301

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Han Solo

You guys are geniouses.

Favor a rookie over perhaps the best RB in the NFL.

Listen to yourselves. You would think Trent Richardson had already done something in the NFL. He might not even be a good fit behind our line, which looked demonstrably worse without Charles last season.

Because our RBs were who???

Richardson will likely be a stud, but it would be a better allocation of resources to sign Green-Ellis who would be an excellent #2 back to Charles, assuming the staff has full faith in Charles' health.

I'd love to see us trade up, but I believe we're looking at tackle territory right now. Best "Plan B" would be for Richardson to be on the board and for us to swing a deal with a team looking to come up to get him or even to get back into the first round.

Then, loaded with two firsts next year, we'd be in great shape if we were to (gasp, dare to dream?) look for a legit QB.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by Han Solo

I dunno, it seems more dense to me to think that a stud RB who has had months to recover can't handle a very light workload.

19 touches a game is not a lot.

He's come out of multiple games with a much lighter workload than that.
He's a great back, but he's useless if he's injured.

[beach tribe]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Michael Turner and MauriceJones-Drew are the only backs in the NFL that had 300 carries last year.

Turner only had 301

The NFL is smartening up, and moving away from high carry totals. It just ruins backs who have the most punishing position in all of sports.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Michael Turner and MauriceJones-Drew are the only backs in the NFL that had 300 carries last year.

Turner only had 301

MJD had 386 touches.

Turner had 318 touches.

[milkman]

I do think 300 touches for JC is a bit high.

And I'd rather draft someone than sign Green-Ellis.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

Sniping for you?

I see a dumbshit posting dumb shit, I call him out on it, dumb shit.

McCluster is a gimmick player. period.

He got more touches last season because of injury, but he still is nothing more than a gimmick player.

He's gimmick player that can't break tackles, nor can he make people miss, so he's a useless ****ing gimmick player.

As a RB, he's so-so. He was more productive than he gets credit for (especially if you subtract out the massive amount of stupid playcalls that had him running up the gut). But yes, at best, he's a situational runner. Not a guy you want as your #1, but you could do worse if he's your #2 or #3 guy.

As a slot receiver (yes, with some gimmicky ability to motion all around the field), it's way too soon to say what he has. His legs seemed to have more life toward the end of the season, and I think it's more than reasonable to wonder if his late season success was due to finally having a QB who knows how to stretch out the field, which opens up the underneath stuff for him. I could give a shit if he breaks tackles like a champ. We all know that the key is to get him the ball in space with a reasonable amount of room to make people miss.

But regardless of his future, yes, in 2012, the Chiefs really have no choice to use him as a gimmick unless they lose somebody either to injury or to free agency.