Royals Chicago White Sox @ Kansas City Royals Game Thread (5/4) - Page 2

**alnorth** · 09:22 PM

Final	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	R	H	E
CWS (12-13)	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	0	6	1
KC (15-11)	0	1	2	0	0	0	0	0	X	3	10	0

Zack Greinke throws the 6th complete game, and the 2nd shutout of his MLB career. (3CG, 2SHO this season)

Zack Greinke is the 3rd pitcher in MLB history to have an ERA under 0.50 after 6 starts

Loss, (2-2) Bartolo Colon 5IP 3R 2ER 3BB 7K
Clayton Richard 3IP 0R 0ER 1BB 1K

VS.

Win, (6-0) Zack Greinke 9IP 0R 0ER 0BB 10K

Starting Lineups

CWS

1. Chris Getz, 2B
2. Jayson Nix, 3B/RF
3. Carlos Quentin, LF
4. Jim Thome, DH
5. Paul Konerko, 1B
6. A.J. Pierzynsky, C
7. Alexei Ramirez, SS
8. Scott Podsednik, RF/CF
9. Brent Lillibridge, CF
9. Wilson Betemit, ph/3B

KC

1. Coco Crisp, CF
2. David DeJesus, LF
3. Mark Teahen, 3B
4. Jose Guillen, RF
4. Mitch Maier, pr/RF
5. Billy Butler, 1B
6. Mike Jacobs, DH
7. Alberto Callaspo, 2B
8. Miguel Olivo, C
9. Mike Aviles, SS

jidar · 05-04-2009, 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

never bet baseball before...

so, If I bet $100... how much would I win, if the Royals win?

You gotta bet $165 to win $100 is what that is saying since it's a negative line
-165

If it was a positive line like so
+165
then you would win $165 for betting $100

yeah it's kind of confusing.

**alnorth** · 05-04-2009, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ari Chi3fs

never bet baseball before...

so, If I bet $100... how much would I win, if the Royals win?

Bet $180 to win $100. If thats the line for KC, I assume for Chicago it would be something like bet $100 to win $170 or whatever. Thats pretty freaking huge in baseball, given how often good teams lose and bad teams win, where a really great team would still lose 40% of their games. A normal baseball money line is between +/- 120

**alnorth** · 05-04-2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jidar

You gotta bet $165 to win $100 is what that is saying since it's a negative line
-165

If it was a positive line like so
+165
then you would win $165 for betting $100

yeah it's kind of confusing.

It OPENED at -165, its now at -180, which is hilarious. I'm not betting that line for any team in baseball, unless it was something like the AL All-Star team vs one of our old 100-loss Royal teams, and even then the expected value would be about break even.

This is a sucker bet for people who have fallen in love with Greinke, Colon and the White Sox have a better chance to win than this.

Demonpenz · 05-04-2009, 11:56 AM

the word is the money line is that big because there hasn't been much action on the royals lately. Betters are still toeing the water it seems

**alnorth** · 05-04-2009, 12:00 PM

hmm, I must have been missing something the last few years, its been a while since I checked baseball money lines because I see some similar lines for a few games out there. So, maybe this game doesnt stick out like a sore thumb like I was implying, but its still pretty lopsided.

The site I'm looking at now has KC at -190 and CWS at +170, the only game with a bigger favorite is Tampa Bay over Baltimore, but even then you have one team a lot better than the other with Kazmir VS a guy who is really struggling. Colon and the White Sox are getting no respect in our game.

**alnorth** · 05-04-2009, 12:05 PM

HOU 135
WSH -150

MIL -135
PIT 125

CLE -103
TOR -107

BOS -102
NYY -108

BAL 200
TB -230

MIN 122
DET -132

CIN 142
FLA -157

NYM 114
ATL -124

SF 170
CHC -190

CWS 170
KC -190

PHI 122
STL -132

COL -117
SD 107

LAA -112
OAK 102

ARI 129
LAD -139

TEX 135
SEA -150

CaliforniaChief · 05-04-2009, 12:09 PM

Ok, this feels weird but I'm going to put it out there. I'm officially leaving the "I'm waiting for this to fall apart" bandwagon. This is a good baseball team and they're going to win at least 85 games this year. The starting pitching is too good for that not to happen. The offense is picking up, and we're doing this without good hitting from Butler, Gordon, and Jacobs.

I'm tired of Royals fans' mentality (which I have proudly carried for years) that we are a loser franchise. The corner has been turned and we're going to compete now. This in no way should discourage Pete from his "Game Over" posts because I respect that but I do not respect the jinx anymore.

Oh yeah, and I can't freaking WAIT until Saturday night. Got front row seats, upper deck for the game against the Angels. Zack's scheduled to pitch, and I'm pumped to not only go but also run Zack smack against the Mousketeers.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 05-04-2009, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jethopper

Royals currently at -1.5 according to betcris.com

Thats not a spread thats a run line. There is no spread in baseball there's only the -1.5 run line. I'd guess that the payout on the run line would be even or damn close if the line is at -180

Demonpenz · 05-04-2009, 12:40 PM

the spread at bets.com went up to royals plus 2 runs

WilliamTheIrish · 05-04-2009, 12:44 PM

Want to get this in:

Pete: Shut up.

Demonpenz · 05-04-2009, 12:45 PM

the spread on some of the other sites seem to be going up. 3 runs by the royals to 4 runs i haven't seen a spread like this since the spread in the NY Atlanta game. spread

WilliamTheIrish · 05-04-2009, 12:50 PM

SOX made several moves on Friday:

Quote:

CHICAGO - Prior to tonight's (5/1) game at the Texas Rangers, the Chicago White Sox made the following four roster moves.

Outrighted OF Jerry Owens to Class AAA Charlotte.
Placed OF Brian Anderson on the 15-day disabled list with a strained right oblique (retroactive to April 30)..
Purchased the contract of OF Scott Podsednik from Charlotte..
Returned INF Jayson Nix from his rehabilitation assignment at Charlotte and reinstate him from the 15-day disabled list..

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news...=.jsp&c_id=cws

Podsednik will be forever a favorite for hitting that game winning WS HR off of Lidge in 05.

CoMoChief · 05-04-2009, 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief

Ok, this feels weird but I'm going to put it out there. I'm officially leaving the "I'm waiting for this to fall apart" bandwagon. This is a good baseball team and they're going to win at least 85 games this year. The starting pitching is too good for that not to happen. The offense is picking up, and we're doing this without good hitting from Butler, Gordon, and Jacobs.

I'm tired of Royals fans' mentality (which I have proudly carried for years) that we are a loser franchise. The corner has been turned and we're going to compete now. This in no way should discourage Pete from his "Game Over" posts because I respect that but I do not respect the jinx anymore.

Oh yeah, and I can't freaking WAIT until Saturday night. Got front row seats, upper deck for the game against the Angels. Zack's scheduled to pitch, and I'm pumped to not only go but also run Zack smack against the Mousketeers.

Its good to have hopes and dreams. But reality sets in and its only beginning of May, traditonally the Royals have never had good Aprils and usually are out of it by June. This season thats not the case but the division is still wide open and the Royals aren't the greatest hitting team, I also dont think the pitching will be as good as it has been, especially after Meche and Greinke

**Kyle DeLexus** · 05-04-2009, 12:55 PM

Of course Greinke is going to start giving up some runs, but who is to say that the bottom 3 once Hoch gets in there can't perform at a servicable level?

**Kyle DeLexus** · 05-04-2009, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

the spread on some of the other sites seem to be going up. 3 runs by the royals to 4 runs i haven't seen a spread like this since the spread in the NY Atlanta game. spread

Damn. I should have got in when it was only at 1.5 what happens if the Royals only win by 4? A push in baseball?

05-04-2009, 11:56 AM	#19
Demonpenz I got Rice cookin in the micro Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $3102136	the word is the money line is that big because there hasn't been much action on the royals lately. Betters are still toeing the water it seems __________________
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05-04-2009, 12:00 PM	#20
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	hmm, I must have been missing something the last few years, its been a while since I checked baseball money lines because I see some similar lines for a few games out there. So, maybe this game doesnt stick out like a sore thumb like I was implying, but its still pretty lopsided. The site I'm looking at now has KC at -190 and CWS at +170, the only game with a bigger favorite is Tampa Bay over Baltimore, but even then you have one team a lot better than the other with Kazmir VS a guy who is really struggling. Colon and the White Sox are getting no respect in our game. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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05-04-2009, 12:05 PM	#21
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57166239	HOU 135 WSH -150 MIL -135 PIT 125 CLE -103 TOR -107 BOS -102 NYY -108 BAL 200 TB -230 MIN 122 DET -132 CIN 142 FLA -157 NYM 114 ATL -124 SF 170 CHC -190 CWS 170 KC -190 PHI 122 STL -132 COL -117 SD 107 LAA -112 OAK 102 ARI 129 LAD -139 TEX 135 SEA -150 __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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05-04-2009, 12:09 PM	#22
CaliforniaChief #RIPAce Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $12422899	Ok, this feels weird but I'm going to put it out there. I'm officially leaving the "I'm waiting for this to fall apart" bandwagon. This is a good baseball team and they're going to win at least 85 games this year. The starting pitching is too good for that not to happen. The offense is picking up, and we're doing this without good hitting from Butler, Gordon, and Jacobs. I'm tired of Royals fans' mentality (which I have proudly carried for years) that we are a loser franchise. The corner has been turned and we're going to compete now. This in no way should discourage Pete from his "Game Over" posts because I respect that but I do not respect the jinx anymore. Oh yeah, and I can't freaking WAIT until Saturday night. Got front row seats, upper deck for the game against the Angels. Zack's scheduled to pitch, and I'm pumped to not only go but also run Zack smack against the Mousketeers.
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05-04-2009, 12:40 PM	#24
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05-04-2009, 12:44 PM	#25
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05-04-2009, 12:45 PM	#26
Demonpenz I got Rice cookin in the micro Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $3102136	the spread on some of the other sites seem to be going up. 3 runs by the royals to 4 runs i haven't seen a spread like this since the spread in the NY Atlanta game. spread __________________
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05-04-2009, 12:55 PM	#29
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