Troy Brown - Page 3

bricks · 05-20-2005, 09:23 AM

would anybody want him? he's still available...We release Morton come June 1st, we may have the money to sign a guy like Brown. I would imagine he'd play for the vet minimum, maybe a little more. Would be a nice upgrade over Morton don't you think?

TRR · 05-20-2005, 01:12 PM

I think KC will sign a vet WR after June 1st. But with only a couple of weeks left till then, I think Peterson and Vermeil want to see what hits the open market.

Right now the options appear to be Troy Brown, Freddie Mitchell, Az Hakim, and Jerry Rice (Denver?). Hopefully a couple of vets are added to that list after June 1st.

TRR · 05-20-2005, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

Correct. The issue is that Tim Dwight, who we signed in FA from the Chargers, does everything Troy used to do (except CB) and does it cheaper, younger and faster.

There's just no argument that Brown lost a bit of his quickness last year. We were horrible at returning punts, and it looked like Troy just didn't have as much shake and bake as before.

Love to have him back if we can, though. A huge fan favorite.

Tim Dwight has been one of the bigger disappointments in Charger history. The Chargers franchise said they would have never done the Vick for Tomlinson deal if Dwight wasn't included. Dwight never could grab hold of a WR spot, has lost some speed, and has had big injury problems.

I was a big fan of Dwight in College...My brother played against him in High School when he went to Iowa City High. But his little stature never translated well to the NFL game. Not with how wreckless he plays. Dwight was an unbelievable high school running back.

TRR · 05-20-2005, 01:30 PM

I found this interesting comparing Troy Brown to Johnnie Morton...

From the 2000 season until now, Troy Brown has put up 3,689 yards receiving, and 17 TD's. Morton has put up 3,874 yards and 15 TD's. Very similiar numbers.

bricks · 05-20-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

I found this interesting comparing Troy Brown to Johnnie Morton...

From the 2000 season until now, Troy Brown has put up 3,689 yards receiving, and 17 TD's. Morton has put up 3,874 yards and 15 TD's. Very similiar numbers.

Yeah..but c'mon we all know Troy Brown is a much better player. Not only player, but, person as well. I'll take him anyday over that piece of sh*t Johnnie Morton.

bricks · 05-20-2005, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

I have no problem slowing down the development of 1. A mid round draft pick who played four games total last season, and never had a 100 yard game. And 2. A late round pick who looked horrible in his Senior season, and hasn't looked good in OTA's.

Especially if that player is a quality leader/playmaker like Troy Brown.

I like Samie Parker a lot, but we need some WR insurance.

I agree...rep

KChiefs1 · 05-20-2005, 02:04 PM

He'd actually fill two of the Chiefs needs(WR & CB)

TRR · 05-20-2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks

Yeah..but c'mon we all know Troy Brown is a much better player. Not only player, but, person as well. I'll take him anyday over that piece of sh*t Johnnie Morton.

Rep back at you. The reason I posted that was because not a lot of people realize that Brown has put up about the same numbers as Morton has over the last 5 seasons.

Wallcrawler · 05-20-2005, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Rep back at you. The reason I posted that was because not a lot of people realize that Brown has put up about the same numbers as Morton has over the last 5 seasons.

Troy Brown also played defense most of last season. Kinda hard to slight a guy for not producing on offense, when he was playing defense.

That aside however, if Troy Brown is so great, why did the Patriots not keep him?

Whatever happens, the Chiefs are pretty much going to be replacing Johnnie Morton with someone of about the same caliber, unless they want to drop some serious cash, which they dont have.

If Troy Brown can be a possession receiver and catch the football, then he is already better than Morton. Morton has feigned injury to miss games and practices, he drops easy passes, and quits on plays over the middle. Throw in the fact that he's a first class overpaid asshole, and you pretty much have every reason to replace him with someone, anyone else.

KCChiefsMan · 05-20-2005, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

How many more changes can a team make on Defense?

Surtain = Vet Leadership
Bell = Young Playmaker
Hall = Role Player
Knight = Ball Hawk

We can't make 11 Changes on one side of the ball. Christ you are like ESPN

when you've had the worst defense in the past 3 years you can

**Rausch** · 05-20-2005, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsMan

when you've had the worst defense in the past 3 years you can

There is no doubt in my mind we now have the talent to be a top 15 defense, the only question is if Gun can get them all on the same page and clicking in time to make the playoffs/win the division.

And Morton is just ****ing terrible. He reminds me of Willie Davis: can do two front flips, leap over a guy, and catch the ball, but if it hits him right in the hands when he's wide open he drops it...

We don't need a true no 1 WR, we need a guy with HANDS who can catch everything thrown his way.

TRR · 05-20-2005, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Troy Brown also played defense most of last season. Kinda hard to slight a guy for not producing on offense, when he was playing defense.

That aside however, if Troy Brown is so great, why did the Patriots not keep him?

Whatever happens, the Chiefs are pretty much going to be replacing Johnnie Morton with someone of about the same caliber, unless they want to drop some serious cash, which they dont have.

If Troy Brown can be a possession receiver and catch the football, then he is already better than Morton. Morton has feigned injury to miss games and practices, he drops easy passes, and quits on plays over the middle. Throw in the fact that he's a first class overpaid asshole, and you pretty much have every reason to replace him with someone, anyone else.

Brown was released because of money according to Amnorix.

Also, Brown brings a winning attitude and leadership to KC's locker room. I'm not sure what Morton brings.

tk13 · 05-20-2005, 05:21 PM

I think he'd be a great addition. He wouldn't even have to start, he could just be another WR we can throw out there. He can catch the ball, he's not going to complain about PT. I wouldn't have any problem with it.

TEX · 05-20-2005, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

Brown was released because of money according to Amnorix.

Also, Brown brings a winning attitude and leadership to KC's locker room. I'm not sure what Morton brings.

Plenty of lustful hugs and kisses perhaps?

TRR · 05-20-2005, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I think he'd be a great addition. He wouldn't even have to start, he could just be another WR we can throw out there. He can catch the ball, he's not going to complain about PT. I wouldn't have any problem with it.

Brown wouldn't have to start, but I would be rooting for him to. I like Samie Parker and his potential, but I think Parker would benefit from another year as the 3rd or 4th WR. Brown could step in and give us a very reliable #2 WR.

ct · 05-20-2005, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TRR

I found this interesting comparing Troy Brown to Johnnie Morton...

From the 2000 season until now, Troy Brown has put up 3,689 yards receiving, and 17 TD's. Morton has put up 3,874 yards and 15 TD's. Very similiar numbers.

Don't overlook the fact he barely played WR last year. Don't have the numbers, but I bet he played more defensive snaps than offensive.

05-20-2005, 09:23 AM
bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9902559	Troy Brown would anybody want him? he's still available...We release Morton come June 1st, we may have the money to sign a guy like Brown. I would imagine he'd play for the vet minimum, maybe a little more. Would be a nice upgrade over Morton don't you think?
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05-20-2005, 01:12 PM	#31
TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9870185	I think KC will sign a vet WR after June 1st. But with only a couple of weeks left till then, I think Peterson and Vermeil want to see what hits the open market. Right now the options appear to be Troy Brown, Freddie Mitchell, Az Hakim, and Jerry Rice (Denver?). Hopefully a couple of vets are added to that list after June 1st.
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05-20-2005, 01:30 PM	#33
TRR The Priest and I Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: CO Casino cash: $9870185	I found this interesting comparing Troy Brown to Johnnie Morton... From the 2000 season until now, Troy Brown has put up 3,689 yards receiving, and 17 TD's. Morton has put up 3,874 yards and 15 TD's. Very similiar numbers.
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KChiefs1 I’m a Mahomo! Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Mid-Missouri Casino cash: $6771021	He'd actually fill two of the Chiefs needs(WR & CB) __________________
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05-20-2005, 05:21 PM	#42
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1872500	I think he'd be a great addition. He wouldn't even have to start, he could just be another WR we can throw out there. He can catch the ball, he's not going to complain about PT. I wouldn't have any problem with it.
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