***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[KCUnited]

The mask thing will be interesting as summer approaches. I have a few in the rotation that I'm diligent about wearing but looking for one a little lighter. It was 60 yesterday but felt like 90 wearing the mask.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

This is great. How someone spent the time making this graphic and left 'make is simple for you' is pretty unreal. Are there a lot of people who don't understand wearing a mask helps though? It seems pretty common sense. If you can understand why you'd wear a condom then you should get the basic idea.

As long as you don't wear the same pants the next day , rest them on your forehead to take a shit then put them back on , wear them inside or touch your pants then rub your eyes you should be ok.

If the guy who is peeing had pants the naked people would be less likely to get pee on them as well.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by The PMII Hypothesis

No ones an asshole sharing information these days, we are all just trying to make sense in these uncertain times. The doses are 0.5 mg ipratropium bromide and 3 mg albuterol.

One note my doc said was key was that I bought an Oximeter early on and measured my blood oxygen levels daily, and did have some times where it was trending down around 93-94, and I had to really work oxygen deep into my lungs to get the reading consistently above 97. A lot of the lung and tissue damage seems to be happening when people’s oxygen levels are getting low <90 (?) and staying there and many don’t even realize it. If any of you don’t have one, I’d highly recommend buying one off Amazon or wherever, as it will give you a baseline to work off of as the respiratory illness progresses.

Example of one: (should be around $30bit supply/demand)

Pulse Oximeter Fingertip, Blood Oxygen Saturation Monitor for Pulse Rate and SpO2 Level, Portable Pulse Oximeter with Large LED Display, Batteries and Lanyard Included https://www.amazon.com/dp/B082NHTCHN..._BsxREb5Q24CSG

Having very mild to no symptoms.

Should I get a pulse ox anyway? I thought I had one at home from work but I can’t seem to find it.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

The ban pool gets anxious with luls

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

Explaining face masks through pants. Source: https://t.co/9NcPKnv6Zq pic.twitter.com/FuWPvI1wQ0

— Simon Kuestenmacher (@simongerman600) May 1, 2020

You r kelly me with the grammatical error

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Having very mild to no symptoms.

Should I get a pulse ox anyway? I thought I had one at home from work but I can’t seem to find it.

It wouldn't hurt , unless you think it would make you more anxious and would be checking it constantly.

If you have a kid , it might not be a bad thing to have around the house just even for future use.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

I wouldnt open until we can do better testing. But some people in this thread just think we can open everything and itll improve the economy.

Aside from the situation I laid out about employees and customers getting sick what happens when for example you have 20 reported cases at your resteraunt and the one down the street has less than 5? How is that not going to drive more small business to shut down?

It’s ridiculous to think nothing can open up until a vaccine comes out.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

That actually does a better job explaining why the guy peeing on everyone should just stay the **** home.

[O.city]

It’s just like the flu, bro. Ask @CDCgov TBH I’m surprised they went there, but so be it. (Odds this page survives the night? Un-high.) pic.twitter.com/qt3UlcwTxF

— Alex Berenson (@AlexBerenson) May 2, 2020

So what is the CDC saying here?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by Monticore

As long as you don't wear the same pants the next day , rest them on your forehead to take a shit then put them back on , wear them inside or touch your pants then rub your eyes you should be ok.

If the guy who is peeing had pants the naked people would be less likely to get pee on them as well.

Put them out in the sun. Whatever is on your pants/mask will be deader than fried chicken within hours.

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by Monticore

It wouldn't hurt , unless you think it would make you more anxious and would be checking it constantly.

If you have a kid , it might not be a bad thing to have around the house just even for future use.

Exactly, it’s a nice $30 insurance policy to give you peace of mind akin to having a thermometer in the house. I know I’m glad I have it, and I’d never heard of them for personal use until this whole mess.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Monticore

It wouldn't hurt , unless you think it would make you more anxious and would be checking it constantly.

If you have a kid , it might not be a bad thing to have around the house just even for future use.

+1

Of course this is coming from the guy checking his temperature 50x per day about a month ago.

Seriously though, it's a good thing to have on hand. It'll come in handy now, and in the future as well.

[phisherman]

It sounds like they're saying the hospitalization rate for Covid is similar to a bad flu season.

[O.city]

So if i'm reading this right, about 25%-30% of US Covid deaths are happening in nursing homes. That's just awful.

[Discuss Thrower]

https://www.globenewswire.com/news-r...anization.html