***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

Click here for the original OP:

Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Fish

There's not exactly standards for it. But basically it only allows for "Essential" local travel. Here's what SF just put into place, if that is a decent example:

The shelter-in-place order that San Francisco adopted has fairly large exemptions for health, work, food and even exercise.
There, city officials ordered residents to remain in place at their homes except for essential activities, essential business and essential government functions, including:

• Tasks essential to maintain health and safety, such as obtaining medicine or seeing a doctor.
• Getting necessary services or supplies for themselves or their family or household members, such as getting food and supplies, pet food and supplies necessary for staying at home.
• Engaging in outdoor activity, such as walking, hiking or running provided that they maintain at least 6 feet of social distancing.
• Caring for a family member in another household.
• Caring for elderly, minors, dependents, people with disabilities or other vulnerable persons.
  
  
  The shelter-in-place order also does not apply to those going to work in an essential business or essential government function. That includes:
• Health care operations, including home health workers.
• Essential Infrastructure, including construction of housing and operation of public transportation and utilities.
• Grocery stores, farmers' markets, food banks, convenience stores.
• Businesses that provide necessities of life for economically disadvantaged individuals and shelter facilities.
• Pharmacies, health care supply stores and health care facilities.
• Gas stations and auto repair facilities.
• Banks.
• Garbage collection.
• Hardware stores, plumbers, electricians and other service providers necessary to maintain the safety, sanitation and essential operation of residences and other essential businesses.
• Educational institutions, for the purposes of facilitating distance learning.
• Laundromats, dry cleaners and laundry service providers.
• Businesses that ship or deliver groceries, food and goods directly to residences.
• Child care facilities providing services that enable essential employees to go to work.
• Roles required for any essential business to "maintain basic operations," which include security, payroll and similar activities.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/17/us/sh...rnd/index.html

Everyone does what they want basically but commerce other than basic needs is dead and the Cheetos and Porno shelves at local stores are sold out. Oh yea, the Chinese have all the TP.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

LA four weeks of this shit. Good thing I’m building my own company and it’s a work from home gig. Gonna get a lot done I guess

Pretty sure you’re gonna die.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

The governor hear ordered prisoners to start making it. Something like 240 tons every 2 days will be made.

Reager's Distillery was selling it outside by the gallon and free to health care facilities. Was gone shortly after noon.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Pretty sure you’re gonna die.

100% chance

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

100% chance

[TLO]

I know this is pure speculation - but what do you think the likelihood of a nation wide shelter in place order?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by TLO

I know this is pure speculation - but what do you think the likelihood of a nation wide shelter in place order?

0%

country is too big and spread out

doesn't make sense for people in north dakota to ****ing shelter in place

if it happens it'll get done at a city level i'd bet

[Kiimo]

Weren’t people talking about that rumor just yesterday

[Fish]

Italian hospital dealing with excess coronavirus patients...

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

Weren’t people talking about that rumor just yesterday

Fedbois don't have that power (as DLN explained.)

It would be all 50+ state and territory governors all calling for it.

[Hammock Parties]

A really bad side effect of this is that I now have so much food in the house, and so little to do outside the house, is that I could ****ing sit in this house all day and eat.

[Kiimo]

No I understand. I think it has to be the governor though so I imagine they will all do it. Even North Dakota has a city

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

All of our gyms are closed here.

Originally Posted by lewdog

Gyms closed here.
.

Same here.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

A really bad side effect of this is that I now have so much food in the house, and so little to do outside the house, is that I could ****ing sit in this house all day and eat.

Gaining the Covid19 is the new Freshman 15

[arrowheadnation]

My buddies and I were texting with each other today when one of them brought up something I guess I haven't really thought of because I've been preoccupied with boredom and a little worry. After hitting the "pause button" for a few weeks, just think how much more we're going to appreciate "everything" once this has finally passed. There will be a 2 hour line to get into restaurants and we won't really care, shopping all day with your wife won't seem like the burden that it once was, kids will beg to play outside, theme parks, casinos, and sporting events will be bursting at the seams with people, and....all the toilet paper you could ever want. Just something to keep in mind amid all the doom and gloom.