Love Patrick!

[big nasty kcnut]

My question is how the **** the red raiders had a talent like Pat yet the red raider defense made greg rob efense look like the 84 bears?

[DRM08]

That would be the fault of Kingsbury, who struggled on the recruiting trail and made some terrible decisions with the defensive coordinator hires.

[big nasty kcnut]

Originally Posted by DRM08

That would be the fault of Kingsbury, who struggled on the recruiting trail and made some terrible decisions with the defensive coordinator hires.

Thank you i was just stunned to see pat records there.

[RedRaider56]

Originally Posted by big nasty kcnut

Thank you i was just stunned to see pat records there.

Those of us who watched Texas Tech football were always stunned as well. The defense gave away so many games and wasted Mahomes efforts

[GloucesterChief]

Mahomes should of went to Wazzu.

[Kellerfox]

Originally Posted by DRM08

That would be the fault of Kingsbury, who struggled on the recruiting trail and made some terrible decisions with the defensive coordinator hires.

Not just coordinators, the defensive staff as a whole. But you’re right, you can’t miss on multiple DCs back-to-back. I’ve blocked it out, but our final “statistic” was 7 DCs I’m 7 years, or 10 DCs I’m 13 years? That will set any college program back.

[Simply Red]

hi brad

[big nasty kcnut]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

hi brad

Hey buddy!

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Kellerfox

Not just coordinators, the defensive staff as a whole. But you’re right, you can’t miss on multiple DCs back-to-back. I’ve blocked it out, but our final “statistic” was 7 DCs I’m 7 years, or 10 DCs I’m 13 years? That will set any college program back.

Can't help but wonder how things might have gone during Mahomes' 3 years if we kept Art Kaufman instead of replacing him with the likes of Wallerstedt/Smith/Gibbs.

I think Mahomes showed the world this year he is definitely not "a loser" as some idiots called him after his college career. Give him a halfway decent defense and he will win big. Would have done it a year ago too if the Chiefs didn't trot out one of the worst defenses in NFL history.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Can't help but wonder how things might have gone during Mahomes' 3 years if we kept Art Kaufman instead of replacing him with the likes of Wallerstedt/Smith/Gibbs.

I think Mahomes showed the world this year he is definitely not "a loser" as some idiots called him after his college career. Give him a halfway decent defense and he will win big. Would have done it a year ago too if the Chiefs didn't trot out one of the worst defenses in NFL history.

Good for us that his win record sucked in college. Or he would be a Bear...

[Iowanian]

Easy answer.....Mahomes didn't know how to use the force until Andywon Kenobi started coaching him.

[Megatron96]

For some unknown reason, the Big 12 as a whole can't play defense. This isn't just a Big 12 problem, but it seems like none of the teams in the Big 12 can play defense competently. Basically every team in the B12 played defense as if Bob Sutton was coaching them for the last decade or so.

[Kellerfox]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

For some unknown reason, the Big 12 as a whole can't play defense. This isn't just a Big 12 problem, but it seems like none of the teams in the Big 12 can play defense competently. Basically every team in the B12 played defense as if Bob Sutton was coaching them for the last decade or so.

That’s certainly the perception, but not fact. I haven’t looked at data for the last year or two, but spanning back the last decade (the era his misconception has existed in), the Big12 was actually 2nd or 3rd in Power5 conferences in fewest Yards per play and points per play allowed. They were not to far off from the best conference either.

The difference is that the pace of play in the Big12 is significantly faster than all other conferences, so teams are on the field for more plays. By physically undertaking more snaps, offenses put up more yards and points despite the fact that Big12 defenses are performing just as well if not better than the other P5 conferences.

That said, as a Red Raider, I can attest that Tech specifically did not play defense between ~2010 and 2018. Any criticism of us is fair.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

According to a former Chief who was on or around the coaching staff when Patrick was drafted. The talent was very much evident. But alot of teaching/coaching & his willingness to learn is what made him what he is today.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Originally Posted by OrtonsPiercedTaint

According to a former Chief who was on or around the coaching staff when Patrick was drafted. The talent was very much evident. But alot of teaching/coaching & his willingness to learn is what made him what he is today.

I know no one wants to give him credit but Alex Smith has a huge role in Pats development