***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Pants]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's because it's pretty irrelevant at this point. Life is about 95% normal and taking steps back just isn't an option on thr table That's why this thread is strange to me....Just people clinging to their mask and social distancing.

It was pretty irrelevant in AZ, Texas and California not too long ago.

Pandemics are kind of weird in the way they can just explode and grow exponentially when the R0 is high enough. And it is.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

I saw the words "apocalyptic scenario" used on a main stream media website today to describe what is going on in Texas. Maybe I'm a sheeple, and that's fine - but that phrasing is kind of terrifying.

My advice to you is quit watching the news and start posting how much you love Trump so the mods kick you out of the thread. Both are toxic.

You notice nobody here wants to talk about the new info the CDC posted. Positive things are pissed away.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by Pants

In JOCO KS, I would say mask wearing is probably down to about 20% of people at this point?

****ing boggles my mind.

I would imagine it has plenty to do with around 84% of county deaths coming from Long-term health facilities and nobody dying outside a long-term health facility in over two months. People in JOCO seem to believe it is more an issue with the retirement communities then a threat to them IMO.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's because it's pretty irrelevant at this point. Life is about 95% normal and taking steps back just isn't an option on thr table That's why this thread is strange to me....Just people clinging to their mask and social distancing.

They want to believe it, so it is. They'll either ignore the data or challenge its veracity.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by kgrund

I would imagine it has plenty to do with around 84% of county deaths coming from Long-term health facilities and nobody dying outside a long-term health facility in over two months. People in JOCO seem to believe it is more an issue with the retirement communities then a threat to them IMO.

Is that a legitimate statistic?

[sedated]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

That's because it's pretty irrelevant at this point. Life is about 95% normal and taking steps back just isn't an option on thr table That's why this thread is strange to me....Just people clinging to their mask and social distancing.

Trust me, people that aren't ready to bury their head in the sand and pretend everything is over, think that view is pretty strange too. (Strange being an understatement)

In fact, the difference between this thread and the NFL thread is pretty noticeable. People posting over there are genuinely concerned about having a season in 2020, while sports leagues in other countries are going again and attempts to start ours have just resulted in numerous positive tests. And those are all completely different people than those who post here

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Pants

It was pretty irrelevant in AZ, Texas and California not too long ago.

Pandemics are kind of weird in the way they can just explode and grow exponentially when the R0 is high enough. And it is.

America's attention span simply can't support a pandemic. Sure, give us some injustice and riots, murder hornets, whatever.

Sorry Covid, you overstayed your welcome and the average idiot has moved onto something else by now. The novelty of staying home and wearing masks in public has worn off.

We've sent our good vibes to hospital workers, so they should be good by now.

[kgrund]

Originally Posted by TLO

Is that a legitimate statistic?

The info is on the JOCO dashboard.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

My advice to you is quit watching the news and start posting how much you love Trump so the mods kick you out of the thread. Both are toxic.

You notice nobody here wants to talk about the new info the CDC posted. Positive things are pissed away.

What did they say? Did a quick search but didn't find much.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by kgrund

The info is on the JOCO dashboard.

Thanks.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

What did they say? Did a quick search but didn't find much.

You and PGM posted it..lol Team DoomGloom here just scrolled right on past.

Hell, we start in school summer school in 10 days.
Might be first in the state.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

What did they say? Did a quick search but didn't find much.

Probably that the CDC estimates that actual cases are 10 times the confirmed.

[KCUnited]

10x closer

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

You and PGM posted it..lol Team DoomGloom here just scrolled right on past.

Hell, we start in school summer school in 10 days.
Might be first in the state.

Just an observation that you sound a lot like BleedingRed a couple of weeks ago.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

I saw the words "apocalyptic scenario" used on a main stream media website today to describe what is going on in Texas. Maybe I'm a sheeple, and that's fine - but that phrasing is kind of terrifying.

Dude, that is their game. The media by in large has done that this entire time. They love the word "apocalypse" because it sounds devastating. Keep this in mind, Texas is still no where near what NY was. Not by a long shot.