***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by TLO

We're seeing a small uptick here in Buchanan. We've had counties around us that don't have medical facilities that have had outbreaks in nursing homes, so I think this may have something to do with it.

Our cases per day have been steadily increasing around here though. We were averaging 4 or 5 a day for a while and now seem to be closer to 11-12 per day.

Though we seem to go up and down every couple weeks. I'm just afraid eventually one of these upticks is going to keep going up.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Anyone else have elementary school-aged kids?

How are you planning on handling the (almost certain) possibility of them being virtual for a large portion of the year?

Yep a 2nd grader. With how I can basically work whenever I want I am considering home schooling, but my fiance is totally against it.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

UNC is shutting down in person classes just after 1 week because they had 130 positive cases and probably have much larger outbreak occurring. Who could have predicted that.

If they have only been going 1 week then how is this an outbreak at UNC? This spread didn't happen and they get these tests and results in 7 days.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Yeah but the demon-sperm doctor says they're wrong. So I guess it's a wash.

These kind of post might interfere with the natural selection process, you are messing around with Mother Nature .

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

If they have only been going 1 week then how is this an outbreak at UNC? This spread didn't happen and they get these tests and results in 7 days.

What you are saying isn't what he said. They have 130 kids that have test positive, so more than likely they've been spreading it which leads to a larger outbreak. Try using a little bit of critical thinking and common sense. 130 kids had a highly contagious virus. With what we know it seems reasonable to think upwards of 1000 students have it and have been potentially spreading it.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Anyone else have elementary school-aged kids?

How are you planning on handling the (almost certain) possibility of them being virtual for a large portion of the year?

I have an 8 th grader which is part of the elementary school here , right now I plan on sending both him and my 10th grader to full time school if our cases stay the same no new cases sin over a month.

[KS Smitty]

USD 383 is doing hybrid learning, masks required or online schooling. The hybrid version they will go to school for a full school day on either Monday and Tuesday or Thursday and Friday with the schools being deep cleaned on Wednesday and weekends. The days they aren't physically in school they will be learning online.

[Donger]

The top infectious disease doctor in the US, Dr. Anthony Fauci, said Monday, “We’d better be careful when we say ‘Young people who don’t wind up in the hospital are fine, let them get infected, it’s OK.’ No, it’s not OK."

“In individuals who are young and otherwise healthy, who don't require hospitalization but do get sick and symptomatic enough to be in bed for a week or two or three and then get better, they clear the virus – they have residual symptoms for weeks and sometimes months,” he said during a American Society for Microbiology briefing.

Fauci said subsequent check-ups show that many “have a substantially high proportion of cardiovascular abnormalities, evidence of myocarditis by MRI and PET scans, evidence of emerging cardiomyopathies.”

He said this is “really troublesome” because it is evolving on a day by day basis.

“These are people that supposedly recovered from Covid-19,” Fauci said.

“I'll guarantee you if we have this conversation again, six months to a year from now, we’ll be reviewing the literature about talking about the long-term deleterious effects of non-hospitalized patients,” Fauci said.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Donger

The top infectious disease doctor in the US, Dr. Anthony Fauci, said Monday, “We’d better be careful when we say ‘Young people who don’t wind up in the hospital are fine, let them get infected, it’s OK.’ No, it’s not OK."

“In individuals who are young and otherwise healthy, who don't require hospitalization but do get sick and symptomatic enough to be in bed for a week or two or three and then get better, they clear the virus – they have residual symptoms for weeks and sometimes months,” he said during a American Society for Microbiology briefing.

Fauci said subsequent check-ups show that many “have a substantially high proportion of cardiovascular abnormalities, evidence of myocarditis by MRI and PET scans, evidence of emerging cardiomyopathies.”

He said this is “really troublesome” because it is evolving on a day by day basis.

“These are people that supposedly recovered from Covid-19,” Fauci said.

“I'll guarantee you if we have this conversation again, six months to a year from now, we’ll be reviewing the literature about talking about the long-term deleterious effects of non-hospitalized patients,” Fauci said.

That doesn't sound good at all.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Recently published CDC study on the mental health challenges attributed to Covid

Mental Health, Substance Use, and Suicidal Ideation During the COVID-19
Pandemic — United States, June 24–30, 2020

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/...mm6932a1-H.pdf

Summary

What is already known about this topic?

Communities have faced mental health challenges related to
COVID-19–associated morbidity, mortality, and mitigation activities.

What is added by this report?

During June 24–30, 2020, U.S. adults reported considerably
elevated adverse mental health conditions associated with
COVID-19. Younger adults, racial/ethnic minorities, essential
workers, and unpaid adult caregivers reported having experienced disproportionately worse mental health outcomes,
increased substance use, and elevated suicidal ideation.

What are the implications for public health practice?

The public health response to the COVID-19 pandemic should
increase intervention and prevention efforts to address
associated mental health conditions. Community-level efforts,
including health communication strategies, should prioritize
young adults, racial/ethnic minorities, essential workers, and
unpaid adult caregivers.

People need to stop being selfish.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

The top infectious disease doctor in the US, Dr. Anthony Fauci, said Monday, “We’d better be careful when we say ‘Young people who don’t wind up in the hospital are fine, let them get infected, it’s OK.’ No, it’s not OK."

“In individuals who are young and otherwise healthy, who don't require hospitalization but do get sick and symptomatic enough to be in bed for a week or two or three and then get better, they clear the virus – they have residual symptoms for weeks and sometimes months,” he said during a American Society for Microbiology briefing.

Fauci said subsequent check-ups show that many “have a substantially high proportion of cardiovascular abnormalities, evidence of myocarditis by MRI and PET scans, evidence of emerging cardiomyopathies.”

He said this is “really troublesome” because it is evolving on a day by day basis.

“These are people that supposedly recovered from Covid-19,” Fauci said.

“I'll guarantee you if we have this conversation again, six months to a year from now, we’ll be reviewing the literature about talking about the long-term deleterious effects of non-hospitalized patients,” Fauci said.

So he's saying that people that get hit hard by the virus but don't end up needing hospital care sometimes have lingering effects?

What about the ones who only get a mild infection?

[KCUnited]

We’re approaching long-term effects for everyone

[TLO]

This virus is approaching, if not already, the most studied virus in human history. I wonder how much of this stuff we'd find if we studied other viruses this much?

[dirk digler]

smh Dr. Deborah Birx said today we should have locked down like Italy. No ****ing shit?

Dr. Deborah Birx: "I wish that when we went into lockdown we looked like Italy. But when Italy locked down, I mean, people weren't allowed out of their houses ... Americans don't react well to that kind of prohibition." pic.twitter.com/B9Xe0XncnA

— The Recount (@therecount) August 17, 2020

[staylor26]

Comparing locking down the entire US to Italy is ****ing stupid. You’re talking about 328 million people versus 60.