Chiefs Upgrading the offensive line (...or not?) - Page 3

Chief Northman · 02-09-2019, 05:20 PM

I think either a veteran FA or a draft pick comes in to compete for the starting Center job. The brass likes Morse, but sadly he is not durable. I’d be surprised if he is retained. The Reiter contract was a reward for yeoman’s duty, but I think they see him like they saw Erving in 2017 - your swing guy who can fill in at G/C in a pinch.

O.city · 02-09-2019, 05:20 PM

I think the chiefs have shown that they can develop lower round guys in the middle and mid round etc. to play

I wouldn’t be upset at an OT for depth somewhere

But I have talked myself out of an early pick on the ol I think

**Bowser** · 02-09-2019, 05:25 PM

I'd bet DeVey comes back.

After securing a corner/linebacker/safety in this draft, I wouldn't be mad if they threw every other draft pick at an offensive lineman. Solidify the protection in front of Mahomes.

Chargem · 02-09-2019, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

I'd bet DeVey comes back.

After securing a corner/linebacker/safety in this draft, I wouldn't be mad if they threw every other draft pick at an offensive lineman. Solidify the protection in front of Mahomes.

Agree that Devey is coming back, I also think the throw a later round pick at a tackle or C. I think they have high hopes for Mackenzie at G.

Chiefshrink · 02-10-2019, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Solidify the protection in front of Mahomes.

This right here is HUGE going forward if we are to compete for a SB every year going forward. Keeping Pat upright and healthy.

I've never been satisfied with our o-line's lack of physicality when we needed it most since AR has been here.

We have always struggled against good physical d-lines not being able to run/protect. The Ravens,Titans,Pats and Steelers have spanked us. And mind you in our own house with the Titans doing it 2wice and 3 of the 4 I mentioned here in the playoffs.

I like Reiter and Wylie. They are nasty and athletic.

Morse is too undersized and soft thus gets pushed around and his time is done here.

Fisher is just average at best for the $$ he makes and pulls boners at the wrong time of the game. It is easy to get into his head thus loses confidence against better pass rushers. Need to start looking for his replacement.

LDT waaaay over paid and starting to become soft. Not the road grader he should be. Need to start looking for his replacement.

Schwartz is an over achiever with limited athletic ability/strength. He wins most of his battles but against elite rushers he struggles. We need to start looking for his replacement.

For all of us making fun of Cam's hideous pre-season play looking like a turnstile he surprisingly came around to some degree as the season went on before and after his injury. I can see now what Veach saw in him. However for as athletic as he can be he gets ADD really quickly and gets beat at the most crucial times and is not as physical as he could be. Still in development I get that but if he doesn't significantly improve this next year I say start looking for his replacement.

For me right now I only see Reiter and Wylie as our solid starters in the future and maybe Erving IF he continues to improve. Now with that said, I don't know IF what we have in the "depth bucket of devlopment"(practice squad and backups) that could possibly develop into nasty athletic starters.

Excellent thread topic SNR !!

**Easy 6** · 02-09-2019, 05:37 PM

Great topic for discussion, it's an issue I vacillate on quite a bit

Not too long ago I was calling for a high pick on a new center, but these days it feels like Reiter would be serviceable

Also wanted to upgrade Erving, even though he was a pleasant surprise... yet lately I'm wondering what steps McKenzie has taken in his growth

As it stands right now, I'd be ok just keeping Devey as depth and spending a 4-5 on a raw but talented LT project... we seem to have a nice stable of guys on the interior, but tackle not so much

We put up a lot of points on an extremely well coached pats D with what's already in the cupboard, so I see no reason to spend big at the grocery store this year

Just fix this goddamn defense

Red Dawg · 02-09-2019, 05:41 PM

We need some OL. Mahomes ran fir his life way too much.

**HemiEd** · 02-10-2019, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

We need some OL. Mahomes ran fir his life way too much.

^^^ I couldn't agree more. He took a lot of big hits that would have been roughing the passer if it was Brady.

O.city · 02-09-2019, 05:44 PM

You’ve gotta develop some guys in the cheap and make due. It’s jut part of it.

dlphg9 · 02-09-2019, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

You’ve gotta develop some guys in the cheap and make due. It’s jut part of it.

Its a good thing Mahomes can make Eric Fisher look like a pro bowler

Deberg_1990 · 02-09-2019, 05:54 PM

Any hope for Kahil McKenzie?

Coochie liquor · 02-09-2019, 05:57 PM

I’d feel better about it if Andy Heck was replaced. O line never seems to be consistent.

dlphg9 · 02-09-2019, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Coochie liquor

I’d feel better about it if Andy Heck was replaced. O line never seems to be consistent.

The players on the O line are either talented or theyre not. The O line coach isnt going to make too much of a difference. KC sure loves it scapegoats.

Coochie liquor · 02-09-2019, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9

The players on the O line are either talented or theyre not. The O line coach isnt going to make too much of a difference. KC sure loves it scapegoats.

So looking back on the last 2 years you think our O line has been stellar? I’ve seen Pat running for his life for a good part of the year. Is that part of his game?? Sure, but he’d surely do event better with better protection. Scapegoat?? Yeah I guess our offensive line getting beat by the better teams in the league shouldn’t be too worrisome considering we have a once in a lifetime qb behind center. Let’s keep going with the same guy who hasn’t shown me that he can consistently push the line to the next level.

So are you saying we need to replace a good part of the line, because Andy ****ing Heck is doing an admirable job??

**dannybcaitlyn** · 02-09-2019, 10:32 PM

Dump Heck and try to steal New England’s o-line Coach Or pick up the Indy O-line coach. That’ll be a start. Heck has been able to develop players but the overall performance just hasn’t been good since he’s been here.

02-09-2019, 05:20 PM	#1
Chief Northman MVP Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Canada Casino cash: $6890890	I think either a veteran FA or a draft pick comes in to compete for the starting Center job. The brass likes Morse, but sadly he is not durable. I’d be surprised if he is retained. The Reiter contract was a reward for yeoman’s duty, but I think they see him like they saw Erving in 2017 - your swing guy who can fill in at G/C in a pinch.
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2604064	I think the chiefs have shown that they can develop lower round guys in the middle and mid round etc. to play I wouldn’t be upset at an OT for depth somewhere But I have talked myself out of an early pick on the ol I think
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02-09-2019, 05:25 PM	#3
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3311616	I'd bet DeVey comes back. After securing a corner/linebacker/safety in this draft, I wouldn't be mad if they threw every other draft pick at an offensive lineman. Solidify the protection in front of Mahomes.
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02-09-2019, 05:37 PM	#6
Easy 6 pie is never free Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: the drivers seat Casino cash: $3577775	Great topic for discussion, it's an issue I vacillate on quite a bit Not too long ago I was calling for a high pick on a new center, but these days it feels like Reiter would be serviceable Also wanted to upgrade Erving, even though he was a pleasant surprise... yet lately I'm wondering what steps McKenzie has taken in his growth As it stands right now, I'd be ok just keeping Devey as depth and spending a 4-5 on a raw but talented LT project... we seem to have a nice stable of guys on the interior, but tackle not so much We put up a lot of points on an extremely well coached pats D with what's already in the cupboard, so I see no reason to spend big at the grocery store this year Just fix this goddamn defense
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Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $4662858	We need some OL. Mahomes ran fir his life way too much. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $2604064	You’ve gotta develop some guys in the cheap and make due. It’s jut part of it.
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02-09-2019, 10:32 PM	#15
dannybcaitlyn Supporter Join Date: Oct 2004 Casino cash: $5184000	Dump Heck and try to steal New England’s o-line Coach Or pick up the Indy O-line coach. That’ll be a start. Heck has been able to develop players but the overall performance just hasn’t been good since he’s been here.
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