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Old 04-17-2013, 02:11 PM   #1
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See? You're arguing on that technicality again. I didn't qualify that I meant a top QB in a draft class or any QB with a ceiling as high as Geno's is with a reasonable chance of high achievement. I CLEARLY meant it, and anybody else would have let it slide, because arguing against it is worthless. After all, that's what this is all about. Geno Smith versus any tackle. Geno Smith is a QB. Hitting on a QB in the draft is worth 20 times the value of a tackle.
You don't get to join an argument I'm in the middle of and change the premise of the argument without even being explicit about it. You responded to a post I made where I explicitly claimed that the tackles are widely regarded as better football players. If you want to reject my premise and go off on a tangent, that's fine, but don't expect me to give your alt-universe takes the time of day, particularly if you're not going to address my point directly first.
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Old 04-17-2013, 04:09 PM   #2
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You don't get to join an argument I'm in the middle of and change the premise of the argument without even being explicit about it. You responded to a post I made where I explicitly claimed that the tackles are widely regarded as better football players. If you want to reject my premise and go off on a tangent, that's fine, but don't expect me to give your alt-universe takes the time of day, particularly if you're not going to address my point directly first.
I chimed in because "better football players" can't just be the only qualifier here. Tim Tebow is a phenomenal football player. That doesn't mean he should be drafted, and it clearly doesn't mean that the Chiefs should burn a 1.1 pick on him just because he might be the best QB available in a particular class in some alternate universe. The same goes for James Vandenberg.

On the flip side of the coin, Will Shields was a phenomenal football player and an outstanding prospect. If you could guarantee a Will Shields copy on a player, it would make sense to draft that guy, would it not? Well, he plays guard, though, that's the thing. Guard doesn't compare to LT, and it sure as **** doesn't compare to QB.

That was what I was getting at. In this particular draft class and situation, the possibility of hitting on Geno Smith's potential is a risk that any team selecting at the very top of the draft should take advantage of if there are no elite talents elsewhere.

There aren't, unless you like guard.

Look, you can admit you said something stupid, pat. I've never once seen you admit you've been wrong before on this forum. And you've been wrong PLENTY of times. It's not hard to do.
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