Chiefs Charles vs. Priest

dlphg9 · 10-10-2018, 09:02 PM

Been wondering who CP thinks is the better back

Jamaal Charles

1401 rushes, 7556 yards, 44 tds, 5.4 ypc

Priest Holmes

1780 rushes, 8172 yards, 86 tds, 4.6 ypc

My choice is JC. If you put Jamaal with the offense that Priest had he would probably have broken several records and would be a HoFer. That's not saying I don't love Priest, but Jamaal was out of this world.

bigjosh · 10-10-2018, 09:03 PM

Jamaal, and its not even close.

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ILChief · 10-10-2018, 09:06 PM

What are their receiving stats?

**Buehler445** · 10-10-2018, 09:06 PM

I've said it before and took massive heat for it, but if you put JC on that O, it is disgusting.

**TimBone** · 10-10-2018, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445

I've said it before and took massive heat for it, but if you put JC on that O, it is disgusting.

I agree with you. I think the biggest opposition to this take was Dane. I loved most of his football opinions, but that's one I definitely disagree with.

JC was the superior talent.

In58men · 10-10-2018, 09:08 PM

Jamaal Charles

Bump · 10-10-2018, 09:09 PM

JC does some very bad things behind that line. Priest was good, but JC had to do with it shitty QBs and poor o-line play.

**DaFace** · 10-10-2018, 09:10 PM

Jamaal. Priest was great, but he was also running behind the best OL guys the Chiefs ever had. Jamaal was running behind dogshit most of the time.

lawrenceRaider · 10-11-2018, 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Jamaal. Priest was great, but he was also running behind the best OL guys the Chiefs ever had. Jamaal was running behind dogshit most of the time.

Priest ran behind maybe the greatest OL ever assembled. Any decent back puts up great stats behind that OL. Priest was an above average back who benefited from an all time great OL.

Jamaal put up great numbers behind a below average OL.

**Buehler445** · 10-11-2018, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Why did you pick 2012 as JC's best season? 2013 was better and even 2010 could be argued.

Having said that I voted Priest. Watching him work thru the line was a thing of beauty. I think he suffers from recency bias.

I’d say Priest suffers from nostalgia bias. Those times were fun. Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards was not fun.

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Originally Posted by DTVietnam

Jamaal would bounce that outside, had a sandwich and walked into the end zone. That was fun, but just because Jamaal didn’t do that doesn’t mean that play isn’t 6. Prime Jamaal never got caught on the outside.

**Buehler445** · 10-11-2018, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider

Priest ran behind maybe the greatest OL ever assembled. Any decent back puts up great stats behind that OL. Priest was an above average back who benefited from an all time great OL.

Jamaal put up great numbers behind a below average OL.

If for no other reason, look at LJ before he got hurt who wrecked oussies behind that line but didn’t do ****all behind Herms line then he gets hurt and Jamaal lights the ****ing world on fire.

ILChief · 10-10-2018, 09:10 PM

Strictly running, Charles was better. Priest was much more of a weapon as a receiver, but he had a more competent QB. Also Charles seemed to fumble quite a bit more. It's a tough call. Although in a two year stretch, LJ may be better than both

**Buehler445** · 10-10-2018, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

Strictly running, Charles was better. Priest was much more of a weapon as a receiver, but he had a more competent QB. Also Charles seemed to fumble quite a bit more. It's a tough call. Although in a two year stretch, LJ may be better than both

Charles' best year was under Reid while he was catching passes.

LJ was close, but JC wouldn't need to hit anyone. They wouldn't be close enough to hit.

dlphg9 · 10-10-2018, 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ILChief

Strictly running, Charles was better. Priest was much more of a weapon as a receiver, but he had a more competent QB. Also Charles seemed to fumble quite a bit more. It's a tough call. Although in a two year stretch, LJ may be better than both

Charles receiving stats

308 receptions, 2586 yards, 20 tds, 8.4 ypc

Priest receiving stats

339 receptions, 2962 yards, 8 tds, 8.7 ypc

I'd say Jamaal was the better receiver if you account for who was throwing them the ball.

I'd say LJ had one single season that was elite. It was his 2005 season where he started only 9 games and had 1750 yards and 20 tds and averaged 5.2 ypc. You could say it was one of the top 10 best seasons for a running back in the history of the league. But what's crazy is that 2005 LJ season wasn't even the best season a Chiefs RB has had. Priest in 2002 only played in 14 games and in those 14 games he had 1615 rush yards, 21 tds, 5.2 ypc and on top of that he had 62 rec, 614 rcv yds, 9.9 ypc and 3 tds. So essentially in 2002 Priest gave you the production of an elite RB and a 2 receiver. Then we get to Jamaal who had 6.4 ypc and he ran the ball 230 times that year. It's just amazing the talent we have had at the RB position.

I remember back in day when you'd constantly have to hear about the stupid ass Donkey's, there dumbass blocking scheme and how they have had so many years of a 1000 yd rusher, so basically 60 yds a game, BFD. The Chiefs have had elite RBs since 2001. I can't remember the last time I was worried about our RB situation.

Hog's Gone Fishin · 10-10-2018, 09:12 PM

Charles was the best we ever had but you always held your breath he was going to fumble.

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dlphg9 MVP Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $2169653	Charles vs. Priest Been wondering who CP thinks is the better back Jamaal Charles 1401 rushes, 7556 yards, 44 tds, 5.4 ypc Priest Holmes 1780 rushes, 8172 yards, 86 tds, 4.6 ypc My choice is JC. If you put Jamaal with the offense that Priest had he would probably have broken several records and would be a HoFer. That's not saying I don't love Priest, but Jamaal was out of this world.
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Hog's Gone Fishin Fish are scared of me Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1700477	Charles was the best we ever had but you always held your breath he was going to fumble.
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