Chiefs Charles vs. Priest - Page 5

dlphg9 · 10-10-2018, 09:02 PM

Been wondering who CP thinks is the better back

Jamaal Charles

1401 rushes, 7556 yards, 44 tds, 5.4 ypc

Priest Holmes

1780 rushes, 8172 yards, 86 tds, 4.6 ypc

My choice is JC. If you put Jamaal with the offense that Priest had he would probably have broken several records and would be a HoFer. That's not saying I don't love Priest, but Jamaal was out of this world.

KChiefs1 · 10-11-2018, 01:04 PM

JC all day.

Demonpenz · 10-11-2018, 01:17 PM

priest gots that superbowl ring tho

UK_Chief · 10-11-2018, 01:20 PM

I love priest but, yep it’s Charles

Reerun_KC · 10-11-2018, 01:21 PM

What’s their playoff records in KC? I’ll vote for the one with the most wins...

TomBarndtsTwin · 10-11-2018, 01:36 PM

I'll take Priest. He was a better all around back, good strong runner, great pass catcher, elite pass blocker (for a running back). Yes, he had an elite O-Line to play behind, but Priest always seemed to come up big in the biggest moments. Even the playoff debacle against Indy in 03, Priest did his part. Always went all out.

While JC was a better runner and more athletically gifted player and did play behind sub par O-Lines, he seemed to shrink in the 'big' games. Playoff games, games against the Denver Mannings, etc. Whether it was due to injury, lack of fortitude, frustration, whatever, he just didn't seem to really rise to the challenge when they needed him in the 'big' moments.

I'll go with Priest every day of the week and twice on Sunday . . . . .

ThaVirus · 10-11-2018, 04:15 PM

Priest certainly produced more. His stretch from 2001-2003 has to be the greatest three-year stretch by any RB in history. If not, it's damn close. He was even on pace for a 30 TD season in 2004 before missing the latter half due to injury. He legit had 15 TDs in 8 games lol ****ing absurd.

Yeah, I just did some quick maffs- this man Priest AVERAGED 1,500 rushing yards, 600 receiving yards and 20 TDs during that 01-03 stretch.

But you can't talk about Priest without mentioning that All-Time OL while Jamaal was incredible in his own right. Just such a natural. He was certainly more talented than Priest and had the vision to match. In my opinion, he's one of the most talented RBs of all time. You don't just average 5.5 YPC for your career, especially when the majority of it was spent as the only legitimate weapon on your offense.

He had some great seasons as well. In 2009 he broke out and led the league in rushing the last 9 weeks in which he started, 2010 he averaged a ridiculous 6.4 YPC, 2012 he rushed for over 1,500 yards, 2013 he scored 19 TDs in 15 games, he scored 14 TDs in 2014 while dealing with the high ankle sprain, and was leading the league in TDs in 2015 before tearing his ACL that second time.

Patience and power go to Priest. Ball security goes to Priest by a country ****ing mile. Vision, durability and pass catching/blocking ability are a wash, I'd say. Speed and quickness go to Jamaal, easily.

Jamaal is the more gifted back.

**Rain Man** · 10-11-2018, 04:18 PM

This kind of feels like picking the child you love the best.

Deberg_1990 · 10-11-2018, 04:44 PM

Give me Barry Word over either...

jjjayb · 10-11-2018, 04:57 PM

Charles. By a long shot. I love Priest, but Charles would have been better if he played for the 2003 Chiefs. I also think Priest would be worse if he played for the Chiefs during Charles time.

I've heard everyone here talk about how great the line was in 2003. There's one other factor that helped Priest Holmes tremendously. Tony Richardson. That man was a beast. All those touchdowns that Priest got? Look how many of them were following behind T-Rich. I remember watching him pancake someone, then go block someone else as Holmes strolled in for the TD.

The yards Charles got were playing with coaches like Herm and Romeo. I can only dream of what it would look like if he were playing with the 2003 Chiefs. Not only having that world class line, but also having an actual threat of a passing game to defend. When Charles played, he was all the defense had to key in on. There was no downfield passing threat. Look at how many yards Charles came up with even when the other team stacked 8 in the box. He was amazing.

I love them both though. It would have been crazy to see them both in the backfield at the same time in '03.

SuperBowl4 · 10-11-2018, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Give me Barry Word over either...

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View Poll Results: Who was better
Jamaal Charles	76	66.67%
Priest Holmes	38	33.33%
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10-10-2018, 09:02 PM
dlphg9 MVP Join Date: Oct 2010 Casino cash: $2169653	Charles vs. Priest Been wondering who CP thinks is the better back Jamaal Charles 1401 rushes, 7556 yards, 44 tds, 5.4 ypc Priest Holmes 1780 rushes, 8172 yards, 86 tds, 4.6 ypc My choice is JC. If you put Jamaal with the offense that Priest had he would probably have broken several records and would be a HoFer. That's not saying I don't love Priest, but Jamaal was out of this world.
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10-11-2018, 01:04 PM	#61
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10-11-2018, 01:20 PM	#63
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10-11-2018, 01:36 PM	#65
TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $5099883	I'll take Priest. He was a better all around back, good strong runner, great pass catcher, elite pass blocker (for a running back). Yes, he had an elite O-Line to play behind, but Priest always seemed to come up big in the biggest moments. Even the playoff debacle against Indy in 03, Priest did his part. Always went all out. While JC was a better runner and more athletically gifted player and did play behind sub par O-Lines, he seemed to shrink in the 'big' games. Playoff games, games against the Denver Mannings, etc. Whether it was due to injury, lack of fortitude, frustration, whatever, he just didn't seem to really rise to the challenge when they needed him in the 'big' moments. I'll go with Priest every day of the week and twice on Sunday . . . . .
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10-11-2018, 04:15 PM	#66
ThaVirus Settle this once and forever Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $2082369	Priest certainly produced more. His stretch from 2001-2003 has to be the greatest three-year stretch by any RB in history. If not, it's damn close. He was even on pace for a 30 TD season in 2004 before missing the latter half due to injury. He legit had 15 TDs in 8 games lol **ing absurd. Yeah, I just did some quick maffs- this man Priest AVERAGED 1,500 rushing yards, 600 receiving yards and 20 TDs during that 01-03 stretch. But you can't talk about Priest without mentioning that All-Time OL while Jamaal was incredible in his own right. Just such a natural. He was certainly more talented than Priest and had the vision to match. In my opinion, he's one of the most talented RBs of all time. You don't just average 5.5 YPC for your career, especially when the majority of it was spent as the only legitimate weapon on your offense. He had some great seasons as well. In 2009 he broke out and led the league in rushing the last 9 weeks in which he started, 2010 he averaged a ridiculous 6.4 YPC, 2012 he rushed for over 1,500 yards, 2013 he scored 19 TDs in 15 games, he scored 14 TDs in 2014 while dealing with the high ankle sprain, and was leading the league in TDs in 2015 before tearing his ACL that second time. Patience and power go to Priest. Ball security goes to Priest by a country **ing mile. Vision, durability and pass catching/blocking ability are a wash, I'd say. Speed and quickness go to Jamaal, easily. Jamaal is the more gifted back.
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Deberg_1990 In Search of a Life Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: San Antonio Tx. Casino cash: $3914454	Give me Barry Word over either... __________________ Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning: Matt once made a very nice play in Seattle where he spun away from a pass rusher and hit Bowe off his back foot for a first down. One of the best plays Matt has ever made.
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10-11-2018, 04:57 PM	#69
jjjayb MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Back in K.C. baby!!!! Casino cash: $6143433	Charles. By a long shot. I love Priest, but Charles would have been better if he played for the 2003 Chiefs. I also think Priest would be worse if he played for the Chiefs during Charles time. I've heard everyone here talk about how great the line was in 2003. There's one other factor that helped Priest Holmes tremendously. Tony Richardson. That man was a beast. All those touchdowns that Priest got? Look how many of them were following behind T-Rich. I remember watching him pancake someone, then go block someone else as Holmes strolled in for the TD. The yards Charles got were playing with coaches like Herm and Romeo. I can only dream of what it would look like if he were playing with the 2003 Chiefs. Not only having that world class line, but also having an actual threat of a passing game to defend. When Charles played, he was all the defense had to key in on. There was no downfield passing threat. Look at how many yards Charles came up with even when the other team stacked 8 in the box. He was amazing. I love them both though. It would have been crazy to see them both in the backfield at the same time in '03.
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