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Old 01-21-2019, 08:56 PM   #16
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That's not a ****ing reason to not get a new ****ing defensive coordinator.

****ing reeruned butt****ing moron.

There were excuses after 2013. Excuses after 2015. 2016. 2017.

This thread probably isn't trying to defend Bob, but to pretend that we all think a new defensive coordinator is the magical "fix-all" is WAY more dishonest.

Do we need a better defensive coaching staff?

The answer is ****ing yes. We also need better players. But we also need better coaches.

So go do the one ****ing thing we haven't done since this defense slowly degraded into the abortion that it is after 6 years. Get a new defensive coordinator. We've tried to acquire new and better players. Draft, free agency, and trade. We will continue to try to find things that work. Until we do, though, please just get ****ing rid of Bob. His shitty ****ing resume speaks for itself.

It's not ****ing hard.
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Old 01-21-2019, 08:58 PM   #17
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Crusty Cheesecake Clitori! It's like Baldy just discovered the moon isn't comprised of green cheddar. You go, Baldy.

As though we haven't been fully aware that the backers and d-linemen can't shed blocks.

Actually, it's worse than he states in his uber-obvious, self-serving tweetage. Our starting ILBs (both of them) have been blocked all year by tight ends. Not Gronk, mind you. Just some damn no-name TE nobody's ever even heard of ... neither before nor since. Oh ... and pulling guards. Guards eat up our ILBs like biscuits and gravy. "Yum. We're playing the Chiefs. I just got a contract extension!"

Baldy with the super-hot, NFL-pundit take that everybody knew after week 2. And (other than a couple of games) never demonstrated any improvement. Ever. Baldy Blowitoutyourass is a real killer analyst.

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Old 01-21-2019, 08:58 PM   #18
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That's not a ****ing reason to not get a new ****ing defensive coordinator.

****ing reeruned butt****ing moron.

There were excuses after 2013. Excuses after 2015. 2016. 2017.

This thread probably isn't trying to defend Bob, but to pretend that we all think a new defensive coordinator is the magical "fix-all" is WAY more dishonest.

Do we need a better defensive coaching staff?

The answer is ****ing yes. We also need better players. But we also need better coaches.

So go do the one ****ing thing we haven't done since this defense slowly degraded into the abortion that it is after 6 years. Get a new defensive coordinator. We've tried to acquire new and better players. Draft, free agency, and trade. We will continue to try to find things that work. Until we do, though, please just get ****ing rid of Bob. His shitty ****ing resume speaks for itself.

It's not ****ing hard.

100% right just hope they fire everyone on that side of the ball. Let the new DC pick his coaches
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Old 01-21-2019, 08:59 PM   #19
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Baldy dumb as **** on this play. Houston is stepping forward into a gap at the snap. He held his gap responibility. The player to the inside of him is never getting outside to make that play. Berry does his job by taking on the blocker and not letting the RB get outside. This entire play is funneled to Hitchens to make the play. Hitchens reacts too slowly and then doesn’t attack the ball carrier. He does what he’s been doing all year and catches the ball carrier and gets pushed back an extra 3-4 yards.
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Old 01-21-2019, 09:00 PM   #20
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One thing a new DC could have done is to install some amoeba looks into the defense so that Brady couldn't just walk up to the line and check to a play he knew would beat the set defense he saw.
If I remember correctly, the Chiefs used a lot of amoeba when they used to frustrate Manning when Herm was in town.

Too bad Herm is living it up at ASU.

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That's not a ****ing reason to not get a new ****ing defensive coordinator.

****ing reeruned butt****ing moron.

There were excuses after 2013. Excuses after 2015. 2016. 2017.

This thread probably isn't trying to defend Bob, but to pretend that we all think a new defensive coordinator is the magical "fix-all" is WAY more dishonest.

Do we need a better defensive coaching staff?

The answer is ****ing yes. We also need better players. But we also need better coaches.

So go do the one ****ing thing we haven't done since this defense slowly degraded into the abortion that it is after 6 years. Get a new defensive coordinator. We've tried to acquire new and better players. Draft, free agency, and trade. We will continue to try to find things that work. Until we do, though, please just get ****ing rid of Bob. His shitty ****ing resume speaks for itself.

It's not ****ing hard.
For my part, I don't disagree, Mr. RealSNR.

The problem as I see it is that we can hire on a new DC who may or may not have a system that may or may not fit a majority of our existing marginal-to-bad players. Then what? We have to start rebuilding the defense (such as it is) from ground up? I'm okay with that in theory, but we should be prepared for the fact that a rebuild of that nature takes years.

This isn't an easy fix, my friend. [Insert another 12 paragraphs of FAX bitching like a stiffed desert whore about Dorsey.] We are in a pickle when it comes to defense. Cap-wise. Talent-wise. Coaching-wise. Every whichaway you can think of, really.

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Old 01-21-2019, 09:05 PM   #23
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Baldy dumb as **** on this play. Houston is stepping forward into a gap at the snap. He held his gap responibility. The player to the inside of him is never getting outside to make that play. Berry does his job by taking on the blocker and not letting the RB get outside. This entire play is funneled to Hitchens to make the play. Hitchens reacts too slowly and then doesn’t attack the ball carrier. He does what he’s been doing all year and catches the ball carrier and gets pushed back an extra 3-4 yards.
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For my part, I don't disagree, Mr. RealSNR.

The problem as I see it is that we can hire on a new DC who may or may not have a system that may or may not fit a majority of our existing marginal-to-bad players. Then what? We have to start rebuilding the defense (such as it is) from ground up? I'm okay with that in theory, but we should be prepared for the fact that a rebuild of that nature takes years.

This isn't an easy fix, my friend. [Insert another 12 paragraphs of FAX bitching like a stiffed desert whore about Dorsey.] We are in a pickle when it comes to defense. Cap-wise. Talent-wise. Coaching-wise. Every whichaway you can think of, really.

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Even a changeover to something like a 4-3 isn't going to take that long. And the way I see it, there will be players out of position a lot if we make a switch next year.

So? There were players out of position THIS YEAR when we had the old scheme in place!

It's not like it can't get any worse, right?
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Im not in agreement that this isn’t a quick fix.

With the right hire, scheme and personnel all happening simultaneously and in conjunction with each other; a fix on defense could happen in a year or two. You’d be surprised.

Look at the Colts? They turned their D around in a short time span.

The first part is hiring the right guy. They get that done, and I think the rest will come.
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That should happen once before the coaches jump all over it. Tell the player what to do and then kick his ass if he doesn't do it. Reid is so busy being everyone's friend that he doesn't kick anyone's ass and all the players know it. The team is soft and undisciplined, just like it's HC.

Clark screwed up, he should have kept Dorsey/Pederson and let Reid walk.

Pederson's already won a super bowl.
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Even a changeover to something like a 4-3 isn't going to take that long. And the way I see it, there will be players out of position a lot if we make a switch next year.

So? There were players out of position THIS YEAR when we had the old scheme in place!

It's not like it can't get any worse, right?
That's where we shall be forced to disagree, I'm afraid.

The difference between the 30th and the 31st ranked defense can be a few yards over the course of a year. Or, it can be a heck of a lot more.

I'm not saying I have the answer. I don't. But it can, in fact, be worse. And given the quality of players and the cap issues we're living with, it can be much, much worse. I'm all for breaking eggs, but I'd like to know what we're planning to cook.

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Baldy dumb as **** on this play. Houston is stepping forward into a gap at the snap. He held his gap responibility. The player to the inside of him is never getting outside to make that play. Berry does his job by taking on the blocker and not letting the RB get outside. This entire play is funneled to Hitchens to make the play. Hitchens reacts too slowly and then doesn’t attack the ball carrier. He does what he’s been doing all year and catches the ball carrier and gets pushed back an extra 3-4 yards.
Hitchens, especially on this play ..looks like a LB avoiding as much contact as possible.

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Baldy dumb as **** on this play. Houston is stepping forward into a gap at the snap. He held his gap responibility. The player to the inside of him is never getting outside to make that play. Berry does his job by taking on the blocker and not letting the RB get outside. This entire play is funneled to Hitchens to make the play. Hitchens reacts too slowly and then doesn’t attack the ball carrier. He does what he’s been doing all year and catches the ball carrier and gets pushed back an extra 3-4 yards.
It's a little more complicated than that. Bailey gets ****ing destroyed. Look at how much space him getting washed out opens up for the back on that play. You're asking Hitchens to cover a ton of real estate there. Bailey has to do a better job of holding his ground there, as that will string the play out rather than giving the back a huge hole with multiple angles to run through.
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