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Old 06-27-2016, 11:23 AM  
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Old 05-20-2022, 03:00 PM   #12991
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You can sell at any time between now and June 16, 2023.

If Ford goes back to $16-17 in the next 4-5 months, these options will spike higher by 2-3 times.
Can you explain the above? I think this is what I don't understand. Can you re-sell the options before the 1 year date and make money at a price below the $20 call?
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I’ve got $20k to reinvest. Is Amazon a buy before the split?
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Old 05-21-2022, 06:15 AM   #12993
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I’ve got $20k to reinvest. Is Amazon a buy before the split?
Amazon carries some risk with fuel prices and the unionization push.

It depends on your risk tolerance.
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Old 05-21-2022, 06:44 AM   #12994
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Can you explain the above? I think this is what I don't understand. Can you re-sell the options before the 1 year date and make money at a price below the $20 call?
Yes, options trade daily and you can buy and sell them at anytime.

These options have 1 yr to expire. If Ford gets to lets say $15-16 in the next 3-4 months, the options I bought at $53 a contract will be worth about $250-$300.

The downside will be if Ford goes nowhere or down over the next year and these options will slowly leak oil and expire worthless.

You can literally buy 1 contract for $55-56 and that could be your trial.

You need to read up on options before you risk real money.

If you have a large portfolio, options can be used as a hedge for the downside and lock in some additional money if you write covered calls on the stock you own.
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I recommend the book Trading Options for Dummies. It is the best book that explains them clearly

So many other book can be complicated.

If you really still have no understanding, you may want to avoid them.
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Old 05-21-2022, 09:17 AM   #12996
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For those who want to dip their toes into options, I strongly recommend looking at the Ford (F) June 2023 calls, one year out. They are very cheap and Ford at $12-$13 is a great value.

Low risk with nice upside.

The June 16, 2023 calls for $20 strike are around $53 a contract.

Buying 10 will cost you $530 and I see a 3-4x upside.
I just tried to put in an order for 2 contracts and it said my account does not allow options trading. So, I had to fill out a form and submit. Now awaiting approval.

They have me at n00b level.
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Old 05-21-2022, 01:52 PM   #12997
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I just got property tax notices and Holy shit! They are building new elementary schools in my town and they already hit us with a bond that jacked up taxes a year ago. Now they are doing it again. One property had an increase in taxable value of 40%, another 32%, another 29%, several in the 20% range.

I absolutely hate raising rents on tenants and have a past policy of only doing it between tenants but for the second year again I'll have to issue notices. I can't continue to absorb the increases.

For those of you renting out there , understand that landlords are at the mercy of the market just like farmers.
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I just got property tax notices and Holy shit! They are building new elementary schools in my town and they already hit us with a bond that jacked up taxes a year ago. Now they are doing it again. One property had an increase in taxable value of 40%, another 32%, another 29%, several in the 20% range.

I absolutely hate raising rents on tenants and have a past policy of only doing it between tenants but for the second year again I'll have to issue notices. I can't continue to absorb the increases.

For those of you renting out there , understand that landlords are at the mercy of the market just like farmers.
Up here in Washington, all I read on the community Facebook page is "my evil landlord is raising rent again" as if voting to pass endless property tax increases won't come back to bite these tenants.
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Old 05-22-2022, 06:03 PM   #12999
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Between inflation and this insane labor market where we pay people 20-30% more than what a job is worth, these companies are being "squeezed" by their normal standards as the cost of doing business is through the roof on all sides. No way to control costs. Many companies have high valuations still, so we are finally seeing these blue chips being brought down to match the rest of the market.
The day it happened, I saw it was Target's biggest one day drop since the '87 market crash. Two days after Walmarts biggest drop since '87. I'm surprised the companies didn't kind of shoot out a heads up ahead of time

I had been starting to think it might be time to move in as we were nearing 20% down but this has been pretty concerning. Even the recession plays, like the dollar stores got smoked 10% or more. Just carnage
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The one interesting thing that may save this market from a flush out is that the retail investor isn't over-leveraged like the 80's and 00's crashes.

If anything, the cash hoard on the sidelines is pretty huge and still growing.
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Anything with a YTD big loss today is getting sold off today.

Shit be getting crushed.
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CNBC and several of their guests won't about SNAP. Some are rationalizing the tech stocks getting hit because of SNAP. WTF cares about SNAP? Seriously? If it died tomorrow the economy couldn't give a care less.

I take this as a sign as we are getting closer to the bottom than maybe we thought. When solid tech companies like NVDA, AAPL, AMZN, GOOG, etc., start getting dumped and people are saying it's because of SNAP's shitty earnings, I say it's time to start buying.
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Anything with a YTD big loss today is getting sold off today.

Shit be getting crushed.
I have seen some divergences in indicators trying to form but still too much volatility still out there.

Home sales are starting to take a hit now. Some companies are going into slower hiring or hiring freezes. The transition from buying stuff to going out is in full force.

Plus higher food and energy prices are going to start taking out a lot of the froth in the market.

Simply put, if your company isn't turning a profit then you're probably getting killed off unless you're and AMZN or something.
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Simply put, if your company isn't turning a profit then you're probably getting killed off unless you're and AMZN or something.
AMZN stock has been a giant pile of dog shit. I got my RSU's at $3,300 and now the stock is $2,080 - a giant loss for me.

Glad I'm leaving here next week.
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