Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 20

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

htismaqe · 10-05-2018, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26

We’re 4 games into his tenure and he still hasn’t drafted any All-Pros!

He hasn't even drafted any part-time contributors yet.

Is it too early to declare him a failure? Sure.

Is it too early to be concerned about the fact that he doesn't appear to be good at drafting defense? Absolutely.

**New World Order** · 10-05-2018, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

welp

I asked Andy Reid if he expects Eric Berry to play this season: “Yeah, we’ll see. We’re taking it day by day. But yeah, we’ll see how it goes.”
— Tom Martin (@TomKCTV5) October 5, 2018

ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

pugsnotdrugs19 · 10-05-2018, 01:44 PM

If he’s not gonna play then have the surgery. JFC.

ROYC75 · 10-05-2018, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

He hasn't even drafted any part-time contributors yet.

Is it too early to declare him a failure? Sure.

Is it too early to be concerned about the fact that he doesn't appear to be good at drafting defense? Absolutely.

It is too early, you really need 3 years to turn a team around, since we had the offense in place, we need to give him at least 2 drafts & FA's to see significant results on the defense.

htismaqe · 10-05-2018, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

It is too early, you really need 3 years to turn a team around, since we had the offense in place, we need to give him at least 2 drafts & FA's to see significant results on the defense.

By that time, we're nearing the end of Mahomes' rookie contract.

That's simply not acceptable. You're basically saying the team will have one year with a complete team.

Not at all acceptable.

**The Franchise** · 10-05-2018, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by carcosa

welp

I asked Andy Reid if he expects Eric Berry to play this season: “Yeah, we’ll see. We’re taking it day by day. But yeah, we’ll see how it goes.”
— Tom Martin (@TomKCTV5) October 5, 2018

**** that......cut him. I'm tired of this shit and you're making me hate Eric Berry as a player.

Marcellus · 10-05-2018, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

If he’s not gonna play then have the surgery. JFC.

If they knew he wasn't going to play he would be on IR, he isn't on IR.

Marcellus · 10-05-2018, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

He hasn't even drafted any part-time contributors yet.

Is it too early to declare him a failure? Sure.

Is it too early to be concerned about the fact that he doesn't appear to be good at drafting defense? Absolutely.

Derick Nadi says hello, Armani Watts says hello.

**dirk digler** · 10-05-2018, 02:25 PM

too bad the Panthers game is on at the same time as the Chiefs, I would really like to watch Eric Reid play. They said he is starting on Sunday.

Warrior5 · 10-05-2018, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

If he’s not gonna play then have the surgery. JFC.

This right here.

FloridaMan88 · 10-05-2018, 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa

I asked Andy Reid if he expects Eric Berry to play this season: “Yeah, we’ll see. We’re taking it day by day. But yeah, we’ll see how it goes.”
— Tom Martin (@TomKCTV5) October 5, 2018

In Andy-speak that means he won't be playing this season.

Marcellus · 10-05-2018, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

In Andy-speak that means he won't be playing this season.

Then why isn't he on IR?

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-05-2018, 02:40 PM

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FloridaMan88 · 10-05-2018, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Then why isn't he on IR?

He should be.

He's wasting an active roster space right now.

ROYC75 · 10-05-2018, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

By that time, we're nearing the end of Mahomes' rookie contract.

That's simply not acceptable. You're basically saying the team will have one year with a complete team.

Not at all acceptable.

Well, we are already into year one. By the end of next year we should be seeing a much better defense on the field. Next years team should have much better talent in place as well as this years young talent should understand the scheme a lot better. Meaning 2020 should be really good on both sides of the ball.

I fail to see what is wrong with this approach of talent infusion? How else are we going to field a Top 10 defense this year or next year.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $1926899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. 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